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Copying just main movie
Nevada426
15th December 2001, 04:29
I apologize if this has been asked before but I haven't found anything on it. I was wondering if there was a way to just rip the main movie and 1 or 2 soundtracks, and if it's under 4.7GB just burn onto a DVD-R. If not how would you go about doing this? I don't really need all the extra stuff and don't really want to degrade the quality of the movie if I don't have to. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Derrow
15th December 2001, 13:15
Use the new IfoEdit 0.71.
You will still need to rip the complete DVD to HD, but later you can get rid of everything you want.
Use the 'VOB-Extras' button, and select the option to 'Create VIDEO_TS.IFO & VTS_01_0.IFO)'.
After that is finished, you will have a complete working version in the destination folder, with just the main movie.
Chumboy
15th December 2001, 18:39
Derrow,
if using smartripper, how do you have it break the files up?
-one big vob?
-every vob?
-cell id?
Chumboy
15th December 2001, 18:48
can you post a step by step for making a copy of just the movie and burning it to a dvd-r?
all other steps i've seen in this forum involve some other steps that may mess me up or are unnecessary.
i've been able to use smartripper to rip into one big vob, then quickbuild it and burn to a dvd-r. it works fine on my standalone dvd player, but it doesn't keep the chapter settings as on the original. and when i fast forward, it starts the movie again.
any help will be greatly appreciated.
thanks.
Derrow
15th December 2001, 19:05
Originally posted by Chumboy
if using smartripper, how do you have it break the files up?
-one big vob?
-every vob?
-cell id?
Do not break up the files in any way. Just rip the whole DVD to HD, like it is on DVD.
So don't use the Movie-Rip-Modus. Instead use the File-Rip-Modus in Smartripper, and ripp all files to HD. That is always the best method.
Derrow
15th December 2001, 19:09
Originally posted by Chumboy
can you post a step by step for making a copy of just the movie and burning it to a dvd-r?
oki, I will do so in a new thread together with a new IfoEdit version, this weekend.
Chumboy
15th December 2001, 19:14
when i use the File-Rip-Modus in smartripper, do i need any other files than the main movie vob's smartripper automatically selected?
almost got it...just a little more.
Nevada426
15th December 2001, 19:18
OK, I ripped the movie with Smartripper and have an exact copy on my hard drive (7.82GB) and I now have IfoEdit v0.7. Which IFO am I suppose to open? Are there any webpages that teach you how to use this program? How do you strip the extras? Sorry for all the questions but I'm totally green.
Derrow
15th December 2001, 19:37
Originally posted by Chumboy
when i use the File-Rip-Modus in smartripper, do i need any other files than the main movie vob's smartripper automatically selected?
almost got it...just a little more.
Yes, ALL!
Click the button 'All', to check all files, to rip.
Because, later you will never now which IFO and VOB files you will need to make your DVD-RW playable in your settop player.
You have to check that out with WinDVD or Matrox DVD player.
Derrow
15th December 2001, 19:46
Originally posted by Nevada426
OK, I ripped the movie with Smartripper and have an exact copy on my hard drive (7.82GB) and I now have IfoEdit v0.7. Which IFO am I suppose to open? Are there any webpages that teach you how to use this program? How do you strip the extras? Sorry for all the questions but I'm totally green.
I see.
If your main movie is in VTS_02_x.VOB, then open VTS_02_0.IFO.
Click 'VOB Extras'. Now you have a couple of options.
I suppose you don't want to remux. So uncheck the first option.
If you want to strip audio or subpicture streams, then leave the strip optione checked, otherwise uncheck it.
Now check the option 'Create VIDEO_TS.IFO & VTS_01_0.IFO'.
Select a destination directory for your output files (and don't change the destination filename, Leave it to VTS_01_1.VOB).
Now lets rock'n roll.
When it is finished, restart IfoEdit, and load the newly created IFO's, and press 'Get VTS Sectors' and resave the ifo's.
Now you can burn.
Chumboy
15th December 2001, 21:29
derrow,
when i do what you've been telling nevada, the movie plays fine in PowerDVD, but i can't jump chapters.
any idea?
Derrow
15th December 2001, 21:45
PowerDVD is not able to play a DVD from HD!
To check your files, you must use WinDVD or Matrox DVDPlayer.
PowerDVD doesn't parse the IFO file, if your viewing a VOB file from HD.
Taxidermista
15th December 2001, 22:25
Well, PowerDVD 4.0 XP can play a DVD movie from HD, just open video_ts.ifo file.
Chumboy
15th December 2001, 22:33
i've tried both powerdvd xp and windvd and they both show only 4 chapters...one for each vob.
since it wants to do it that way, i'm gonna try smartripping every new chapter into its own vob.
then follow the same process you've outlined.
don't touch that bat-dial!
.....
Nevada426
15th December 2001, 23:32
Ok, I've done all the steps and the new file is still 5.57GB. I guess I'll have to ReMPEG the new file to get it down to 4.7GB.
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 00:27
Hey Derrow,
I just made a dvdr with just the movie using the new ifoedit, I ripped just the english ac3 track, the video file, and "others" in smartripper, opened the VTS_02_0.IFO in ifoedit, checked Create VIDEO_TS.IFO & VTS_01_0.IFO' and checked correct ifo tables, let ifoedit do its thing, saved as bup when asked, and renamed the vobs to VTS_01_x, then ran get vts sectors and saved over. The movie plays perfect in my standalone except for one little thing. The movie has 33 chapters. You can jump to each chapter until you get to chapter 17, then the next jump takes you back to chapter 1. If you manually punch in a chapter number beyond 17, say chapter 29, the movie goes right to that chapter. So all the chapters are there, you just can't skip to all of them. This doesn't matter much to me, but I thought you would want the report. As far as I'm concerned you've pulled it off, giving us a way to get just the movie on a disk with very little work, so thanks!
Nevada426
16th December 2001, 00:31
My new 5.57GB file will not play in PowerDVD XP, so I'll try those steps again. Also does it matter which .IFO you "get vts sectors" on first?
Derrow
16th December 2001, 00:39
Great, I'm glad to hear that! Yea :)
Well, about the problem. It seems that you've deactivated the option 'Correct VOB-Unit pointers in VOB files'.
If so, then you should also have problems pausing the movie, and fast scanning/playing the movie forward and backward!
Is it so?
Derrow
16th December 2001, 00:41
No, it doesn't.
Never mind, on which IFO you do 'Get VTS sectors' first.
Just do it on every IFO file.
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 00:50
Yeah Derrow I did uncheck that! I am one dumb idiot! So thats it then? I think we're home free! Hollywood is probably going to put a contract out on your life, so while your still alive I just want to say thanks again!
Derrow
16th December 2001, 01:14
Shit happens.
But now you know. You must alway's check this option, if something changes on the VOB-files structure.
This option corrects the Navigation pointers, they are used by the settop player when you press next/previous chapter.
It's strange that 'Pause' is also effected on this, but it's a fact.
It took me 2 weeks to find out that. I burned the movie 'The6thday' about twenty times, to get this chapter-skipping corrected.
I nearly went crazy on this. :mad:
But finaly I got it, with the help of MpuCoder. :)
Chumboy
16th December 2001, 03:29
commander,
how did you have smartripper split your vob files?
one big vob
by vobid
by chapter???
thanks.
Nevada426
16th December 2001, 04:04
Is there a certain way you have to rip with smartripper for PowerDVD XP to play DVD from hardrive? I for the life of me can't make it play my "Along Came A Spider" rip. I've tried backup and file mode and it just freezes and then gives me an error.
MickeyNBK
16th December 2001, 05:28
I normally use CladDVD 2.0 (never tried Smartripper) and Power DVD XP plays mine fine. You could try that or post the error you receive and see if anyone is familier with the error.
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 08:17
Chumboy,
Go to settings, file splitting and check every vob file
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 08:21
Derrow,
You were right, just did Jurassic Park III, its perfect in my Pioneer standalone, chapters work fine, pause works fine, slow motion, fast foward, everything. Thanks!!
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 08:26
Nevada426,
If you only want to play the movie from your hard drive, you can rip the movie as one big vob (select main movie in smartripper, go to settings, file splitting and check max file size) you can then launch Power DVD and hit control O (for open) and click open media files and select that big vob. The same method works if you have smartripper set to rip each vob seperate, you just add all of them
Nevada426
16th December 2001, 16:24
Thanks Commander, I can get your system to work. Aren't you suppose to be able to rip all files and click the video_ts.ifo and have the movie play just like it's on the DVD? My computer just sits there and freezes when I do that :confused: . The only reason I even need to play from the hardrive is to test my resized movie file if I can ever get it to work. Also Chumboy does your Quickbuilder method for resizing just the movie work pretty good?
Chumboy
16th December 2001, 17:50
I tried commanders method exactly, and it doesn't play my standalone player. it plays fine in my computer dvd.
such a simple method.
wonder what went wrong?
Chumboy
16th December 2001, 17:52
quickbuilder doesn't resize...it only authors the material. however, there are no chapters when i do it with quickbuilder.
also, with quickbuilder you have to feed it one big vob file, not separate vob's.
Chumboy
16th December 2001, 17:55
commander,
did you shut down ifoedit after you rebuilt the tables,
then rename the vob's,
then start up ifoedit and 'get sectors'.
Chumboy
16th December 2001, 18:11
does the final burned dvd have to be under 4.3gig or 4.7gig?
the movie i failed at came to 4.5gig?
i know the dvd-r's are 4.7, but is there something magical about 4.3?
ender
16th December 2001, 20:47
ohh this is an old thing
the DVD-R manufacturers state the dvdr has 4.7 GByte, but they MEAN 4700000000 Byte.
But normally the Term Gigabyte means 1024*1024*1024 Byte Which is 1073741824 Byte.
So the "technically correct" Value is 4.38 GByte which is about 4700000000 Byte.
Did i make myself clear ?? i hope so.
The essence is that Harddisk & DVD-R Manufacturers DEFINE a GByte to be 1000000000 Byte, but in Computer Reality it is 1073741824 Byte.
So 4,7 GByte ( labeled by Pioneer ) = 4,38 GByte ( labeled by the old definition ).
I hope you get it, it is a bit hard to understand, but of course again it was the stupid & evil marketing who gave us this for xmas ...
Ender
MickeyNBK
16th December 2001, 20:49
It has to do with the way gigabytes are calculated. A gigabyte is roughly 1,073,741,824 (1024x1024x1024) not 1,000,000,000 (1000x1000x1000). The number 4.3gb (4.3 x 1,073,741,824 = 4617089843.2) So the disc holds aproximatly 4617089843.2 (actually just a bit more)which is really 4.3 gb but they call it 4.7 gb (4,700,000,000 bytes).
To sum it all up, the disc holds about 4,700,000,000 bytes which is just over a true 4.3gb
Taxidermista
16th December 2001, 20:55
Yes, 4.377 GB or 4482 MB.
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 21:01
Originally posted by Chumboy
commander,
did you shut down ifoedit after you rebuilt the tables,
then rename the vob's,
then start up ifoedit and 'get sectors'.
Yes, thats exactly right. You also have to use the very latest Ifoedit. Derrow just fixed it so your dvdr's would play in a standalone. The version before the latest would build so that it would play with power dvd but not in a standalone
Commander XJL
16th December 2001, 21:10
Originally posted by Nevada426
Aren't you suppose to be able to rip all files and click the video_ts.ifo and have the movie play just like it's on the DVD? :confused: .
If you rip the rip the entire DVD using the backup button in smartripper powerdvd should play it when you load the ifo file. If you rip just the movie and try to load the ifo in powerdvd will just sit and never open it, or play it, I've seen it go both ways. But if you rip just the movie the ifo file is definitly not right. Is this what you mean? I'm not sure what you mean by checking your resized movie, if you mean your making new vobs from a new encoded mpeg2 file then the ifo file you rip will definitly not work, you would have to use a dvd authoring program to make new ifo's
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