undersized video

[seoulsteve]

i made one! this is the first time i didn't get the blue screen of death. ALSO, it looks great considering that it's less than 600MB. why did that happen?? here's a section from my movie_Gknot.log:

10:26:49 PM: Started DivX4-First Pass: D:\Swordfish RIP\Encoding\Swordfish.avs
2:03:36 AM: Finished DivX4-First Pass. Duration: 8:23:13 PM
2:03:36 AM: Trying to open Log-file.
2:03:39 AM: Success: Log-file open.
2:03:39 AM: Encoded: 184527 Frames.
2:03:39 AM: Speed: 2.514 Frames per Second.
2:03:39 AM: WARNING: Number of counted frames differs from settings!
2:03:39 AM: WARNING: Settings: 147620
2:03:39 AM: WARNING: Counted: 184527
2:03:39 AM: WARNING: Difference: 36907
2:03:39 AM: Correcting Bitrate...
2:03:39 AM: Original Bitrate = 821 k(=1000)Bits/s
2:03:39 AM: Now encoding at 653 k(=1000)Bits/s

why would the program correct the bitrate like this? i think the original bitrate would have given me a proper sized (700MB) movie.

perhaps more importantly, how can i correct this?

[TheWEF]

the question is: why did you enter 147620 frames in the calculator if you're encoding 184527 ?
ivtc? why not using "force film"?

divx4 doesn't like it very much if first and second pass are not encoded at the same bitrate.

post your complete log.

wef.

[seoulsteve]

i didn't choose forced film because the movie, according to DVD2AVI, was interlaced and NTSC for the warning screens and intro. when the actual movie started, the settings changed to progressive and film at 1%...2%...3%... and was counting up very slowly. this is why i didn't force the film.

i followed the instructions, no? should i always be using forced film?

[seoulsteve]

here's my log file..

also, i didn't enter any information about frame count into GKnot. GKnot did all that by itself.. when i open my *.d2v file, all of that information is there by default.

[manono]

Hi-So you made your .d2v at 29.97fps (no Force Film in DVD2AVI), and then you did something else to bring it down to 23.796fps-I suspect you IVTC'd when setting up your .avs in Gordian Knot. Maybe not, but something screwy is going on here.

So-forget that preview feature in DVD2AVI-it's too slow-just go ahead and Force Film. Most Hollywood type movies can safely be done that way. If it turns out to be less than 95% Film, then you can do it differently.

Why is the warning screen in the .d2v? Didn't you decrypt the movie using Smart Ripper in Movie Mode? If not, then you should have.

Also,unless you did that movie at extremely low resolution, I don't see how it could turn out well for 1 CD. I decided it had to be done for 2 CDs.

[seoulsteve]

@manono

yep, somehow i went from a 29.97 fPS *.d2v to a 23.976 FPS output *.avi. i'll have another go at it. i've just re-done another *.d2v using forced film.

and about the warning screens, they are there. they are part of the Smartripped files. i thought it was weird too. this is the first DVD i've ripped with Smartripper where that's happened. maybe it's because i used files mode for ripping, not movie mode.

i'm in korea, which is region 3. maybe that's the reason...? there are soooo many warning screens: mandarin, thai, korean, english.. :D

[manono]

Hi seuolsteve-I don't want to beat a dead horse, and maybe things are different where you are, but if you rip in Movie Mode (default), then you don't ordinarily get all the intro stuff, but if you rip in File Mode, then it might happen. But I'll take your word for it

Since they're interlaced, I'd still Force Film the .d2v, make the .avi longer (maybe 710 MB if you have a couple of minutes of them before the movie starts), and then cut the damn things out.

And WEF asked for your complete log file. Maybe he can sort it out.

[seoulsteve]

yeah, i'm going to start from the beginning again.

i've checked and the file size of a DVD ripped in movie mode is smaller than the file size of a DVD ripped in files mode. that differene might be the warning screens.

also, i tried to attach my log files, but the board told me that, "you are only allowed to attach .jpeg, .txt, yada yada yada" and would not let me past that warning screen. the buttons are all there and honestly, i'm not the hot-shotiest with computers but i'm not a complete moron either :p ...at any rate, the logs are gone. i've deleted everything so i can start again..

@manono, thanks for the help here...:)

[TheWEF]

what do we write the damn docs and guides for?

you make smartripper a dumbripper if you rip in filemode. why??? DON'T DO THAT!

[seoulsteve]

@wef. i can handle a bit of a lashing, but what did i ever do to deserve such a beligerent attack!?

i made a simple mistake and you call me stupid because of it?

i respect your program, wef. i respect the amount of time it took to build it and the quality of the DivX films that come out of it.

that last post, however, was totally childish. do you understand the difference between "criticism" and "constructive criticism"?

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by seoulsteve
@wef. i can handle a bit of a lashing, but what did i ever do to deserve such a beligerent attack!?
:mad:
you didn't do the minimum required for posting and asking in this forum: read the manual.
then:
i ask you questions to be able to help - you don't answer them.
i ask you to post your log and you're not able to cut and paste it into here.
what's childish? you are simply wasting our time and i'm tired of that.

[seoulsteve]

Originally posted by TheWEF

i ask you questions to be able to help - you don't answer them.

i answered all of your questions.


i ask you to post your log and you're not able to cut and paste it into here.

i clicked attach file, selected the log file from the ensuing window, clicked okay, clicked submit reply, and got an error message. it said that my file could only be one of 7 or 8 different exentions, of which .txt was one, but....anyway...


what's childish? you are simply wasting our time and i'm tired of that.

what can i say? sorry for wasting your time. sorry you're tired of that. don't stress things so much. my problem is only my problem. you shouldn't get so worked up about it.

[manono]

Hey seoulsteve (I spelled it right this time)-

Take it easy on TheWEF. Sure, he's an ornery cuss sometimes, but read back through his posts for the last couple of weeks, and you'll see how many times he gets asked the same question over and over, and how many times he gets asked stuff that could easily be answered if the poster had read the docs included with the program, or Doom9's guide. I'm not saying that applies to you, but you did make a real rookie mistake (and we've all done similar things when starting out).

If you have any more problems, come back-plenty of people around to help.

We love you WEF!

[seoulsteve]

manono: yep, i agree with you. i made a few (maybe 2 or more) rookie mistakes, but i also defend my posts. there is an adage that says, "there are no bad questions, only bad answers."

wef: if you didn't want to answer the same question for the millionth time, then you shouldn't have. however, i know that you just wanted to see my .log file, find the problem, then tell me what i did wrong. simple and fast, like.

[TheWEF]

Originally posted by TheWEF
what do we write the damn docs and guides for?

you make smartripper a dumbripper if you rip in filemode. why??? DON'T DO THAT!

i wasn't anrgy when i wrote that.

but so many problems discussed in this forum (and others) originate only in false ripping. and i don't understand why, since it's so easy and we're really preaching that stuff over and over. read back in this forum and you'll see.
so, once in a while i have to shout out loud to remind people.

Originally posted by seoulsteve
@wef. i can handle a bit of a lashing, but what did i ever do to deserve such a beligerent attack!?

i made a simple mistake and you call me stupid because of it?

i respect your program, wef. i respect the amount of time it took to build it and the quality of the DivX films that come out of it.

that last post, however, was totally childish. do you understand the difference between "criticism" and "constructive criticism"?

this made me angry for a moment since neither did i "call you you stupid" nor insult you in any other way. on the other hand you called me (or my post, i guess that's the same) "totally childish".

however, because i think this should be a fun place (and i'm just doing this for fun) i don't take any of your posts too serios. you should forget the whole subject like i did already...

Originally posted by manono
...Sure, he's an ornery cuss sometimes,...

sure.

;)

wef.

[seoulsteve]

WEF: sorted. i see your point. actually, i just got home from work and just now checked the .avi i made with the new .vobs. everything looks great. now i know: Smartripper is the biggest factor to a successful .avi. so: you can consider one more newbie trained on that first tab in the program. now i've only got the last 90% of the program to go...;)