Is it possible to improve on Zulu using filters etc (sample and sceen shots included)

[demonicos]

I have an old DVD copy of Zulu (1964). The quality of the DVD is shocking and i need to know if any filters for avisynth thet may improve it when i encode it to Xvid. Ive tried the noise filter in avisynth as well as vaguedenoiser but it didnt make much of a noticable difference at all

Heres a 1 min sample of the output with no filters but has been hit with smartbob for deinterlacing really considering the source it aint too bad but i would like to improve it. app 9.5Mb
http://rapidshare.de/files/21320092/Zulu_SP_no_filter.avi.html

Shots of source

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/5711/zulu17nd.jpg

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8413/zulu22xb.jpg

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/638/zulu30wb.jpg

As you can see the quality of the source is crap and any advice on getting a better output is greatly appreciated

Demonicos

Im hoping im not breaking any rules whilst posting this if so ill edit it

[Mug Funky]

my advice? kill it with fire.

the blur is too heavy to get any meaningful sharpening out of it. even the most sophisticated sharpeners we have (in avisynth and possible in pro stuff) will not do more than give a "warpsharp" effect that will make it look artificial.

try find a source that isn't ex-VHS... though on a lot of films that could be hard. another option is to find a real VHS of it and do your own capture with decent equipment. you'll have do a lot of hunting this way though...

[demonicos]

my advice? kill it with fire.

haha i had the same thought, thanks for the reply i guess ill just have to live with it i dont think they ever remastered it either :(

Looks like im gonna have to keep an eye out for an old VHS copy

LOL i just noticed it states DIGITALLY REMASTERED on the case, looking at those screenshots id have to disagree with that

[Mug Funky]

... i think by "digitally remastered" they mean it's been mastered to a digital format. so they're not _really_ lying.

but really, the quality of those shots is akin to a fansub from 6 years ago.

[mod]

it states DIGITALLY REMASTERED on the case
Yes, with Paint.. :D It's a terrible "quality", imo I don't think you'll be able to get anything nice from that..

[demonicos]

Yeah your right im thinking along the lines for digitally restored to think it was even a DVD9

[Chainmax]

Maybe SeeSaw followed by LimitedSharpenFaster(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true) and AddGrain(10,0,0) could work...

[Chainmax]

... i think by "digitally remastered" they mean it's been mastered to a digital format.

But wouldn't that be just mastering (i.é: doesn't remastering imply transferring the source to a different format and modify it as well)?

[demonicos]

Thanks chainmax ill give it a shot, now off to learn how...

[Chainmax]

If you have any doubts, like where to find the filters/functions or how to create a script, don't hesitate to ask :).

[Chainmax]

By the way, I just noticed it has severe color bleeding, so you should probably use FixChromaBleeding() on it as well. And maybe it could benefit from some chroma smoothing (FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)) as well.

[foxyshadis]

I gave it a shot with Deconvolution just to see what I'd get, but the combination jpeg and mpeg encoding renders the results too artifacty to be legible, although a png mpeg cap might be acceptible. It was wanking anyway, as deconvolution takes over 30 minutes on each cap on my high-end machine. (Seriously, with a lens blur of radius 1-2 like that, deconvolution is the only hope it could ever have, otherwise not worth wasting time with.)

[demonicos]

Chainmax i sat up till 1am lastnight and still im having no luck creating a script (im a n00b coming over from Gordian Knot so thats about the most experience ive had looking at an avs script) if possible could you give me a small example of how i would use seesaw

cheers

[Chainmax]

First you need to know wether your source is interlaced or telecined and wether it's Top Field First (TFF) or Bottom Field First (BFF). In order to know what those terms are, I suggest you to read Decomb's (http://www.neuron2.net/decomb/decombnew.html) readmes and tutorials, the IVTC tutorial (http://www.doom9.org/ivtc-tut.htm) and the capture guide (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=78797).Those are a great source of starter knowledge and will explain telecining and interlacing with detail. Also, take your time to read the readme of each filter you use, as they contain descriptions of the filters and lots of extremely useful knowledge.

Anyway, here's the script I suggest:

SetMemoryMax(yourmem/2)

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\DGDecode.dll")

Load IVTCing/Deinterlacing filters

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\MaskTools.dll")
LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\ChromaShift.dll")
Import("X:\wherever\FixChromaBleeding.avs")

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\FFT3DFilter.dll")

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\RemoveGrain.dll")
LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\VagueDenoiser.dll")
Import("X:\wherever\SeeSaw.avs")

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\MT_MaskTools.dll")
Import("X:\wherever\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs")
Import("X:\wherever\Soothe_MT2.avs")

LoadPlugin("X:\wherever\AddGrain.dll")




MPEG2Source("X:\wherever\myfile.d2v")

IVTCing/Deinterlacing

Crop(whatever,align=true)

FixChromaBleeding()

FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)

Lanczos4Resize(whatever)

a = last
b=a.degrainmedian(mode=2).VagueDenoiser(threshold=0.8, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=0.8)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, Sdamp=6, Szp=16)

dull=last
sharp=dull.LimitedSharpenFaster(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true,soft=75)
Soothe(sharp,dull,30)

c=last
GrainU=c.UtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
GrainV=c.VtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
Return ytouv(GrainU,GrainV).MergeLuma(c).AddGrain(10,0,0)

Yes, it's very long and yes, it might not help at all, but then again your source is extremely crappy. Very few of the scripts you'll be making will probably be this long, so don't worry :).

[demonicos]

cheers, so its import for *.avs thats what i was missing as well as a few plugins. Ill see how it goes now, it was too late to be trying this last night ive actually made some progress today this what ive done so far not really much though. BTW its PAL (interlaced)

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\dgbob.dll")
loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\fft3dfilter.dll")

mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Rips\ZULU_VTS_01_PGC1\ZULU.d2v")

DGBob(order=1,mode=0)

crop(16,114,694,344)

LanczosResize(544,256)

FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)

EDIT Chainmax so far the script is going well its all done except for one little thing i cant find any reference to Soothe_MT2.avs could you help us with it

[demonicos]

Ok heres my script


SetMemoryMax(768)

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Decomb.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools-v1.5.8\masktools.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\chromashift27\ChromaShift.dll")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FixChromaBleeding.avs")

loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\fft3dfilter.dll")

loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\RemoveGrain\Removegrain.dll")
loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Vaguedenoiser\vaguedenoiser.dll")
import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\seesaw.avs")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\masktools-v2.0a28\mt_masktools.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\DeGrainMedian\Degrainmedian.dll")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Soothe.avs")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\AddGrain\AddGrain.dll")

mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Rips\ZULU_VTS_01_PGC1\ZULU.d2v")

FieldDeinterlace()

crop(16,114,694,344)

LanczosResize(544,256)

FixChromaBleeding()

FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)

a = last
b=a.degrainmedian(mode=2).VagueDenoiser(threshold=0.8, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=0.8)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, SdampLO=6, Szp=16)

dull=last
sharp=dull.LimitedSharpenFaster(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true,soft=75)
Soothe(sharp,dull,30)

c=last
GrainU=c.UtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
GrainV=c.VtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
Return ytouv(GrainU,GrainV).MergeLuma(c).AddGrain(10,0,0)

Im not too sure about Soothe (if ive done it right) Also i keep getting this error ive gotten a few along the way but cant fix this one

Avisynth open failure:
Script error: there is no function named "repair"
(C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\seesaw.avs, Line 78)
(C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Test.avs, Line 36)

EDIT, Sorry about the double post

[Boulder]

Don't use FieldDeinterlace - try with AssumeTFF().Telecide(), the material could be field shifted which will be fixed by Telecide. If that doesn't fix it, you probably need to use Restore24 to get the original progressive frames back.

You need the correct Repair dll.

http://home.pages.at/kassandro/RemoveGrain/RemoveGrain.zip (official)
I don't remember the URL for the unofficial release but you might find it by using removegrain.rar as the search term.

Extract the correct dll file to your plugins folder, the one you need depends on your CPU, that is, what instruction sets it can use.

[Chainmax]

Oops, I forgot about Repair.dll. It's a part of the latest RemoveGrain package which you can download here (http://home.arcor.de/kassandro/RemoveGrain/RemoveGrain.rar).

Boulder is right (although I'd recommend TIVTC's TFM instead), this might not need to be deinterlaced, read the documents I linked to in order to know how to identify what kind of PAL stream you haveand how to deal with it. About Soothe_MT2, you can find it here (http://www.avisynth.org/mediawiki/wiki/Soothe).

[demonicos]

Thanks for that im just about to double check the interlacing ive gotten repair.dll from remove grain package now its asking for mt_edge so ill have a look fo it then get on the interlacing and see if its done right

cheers

[Chainmax]

mt_edge is a part of the MT_MaskTools (MaskTools v2.x) suite.

[demonicos]

Ok so how do i get it to work i should have masktools-v2.0a28\mt_masktools.dll loaded is their another dll or .avs i need

[Boulder]

Did you put it in the Avisynth plugins folder? What's the error message? You have to be more specific so that we don't have to guess or ask everything.

[demonicos]

Sorry as far as i know i have all my filters in the plugins directory in their own subfolders

My script is now as follows BTW Telecide TFF works a treat and look a bit better

SetMemoryMax(768)

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Decomb.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\chromashift27\ChromaShift.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools-v1.5.8\MaskTools.dll")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\FixChromaBleeding.avs")

loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\fft3dfilter.dll")

loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\RemoveGrain\Repair.dll")
loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\RemoveGrain\Removegrain.dll")
loadplugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Vaguedenoiser\vaguedenoiser.dll")
import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\seesaw.avs")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\DeGrainMedian\Degrainmedian.dll")
LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\masktools-v2.0a28\mt_masktools.dll")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs")
Import("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\Soothe_MT2.avs")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\AddGrain\AddGrain.dll")

mpeg2source("C:\DVD\Rips\ZULU_VTS_01_PGC1\ZULU.d2v")

AssumeTFF().Telecide()
#FieldDeinterlace()
(Im still playing with this)

crop(16,114,694,344)

LanczosResize(544,256)

FixChromaBleeding()

FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)

a = last
b=a.degrainmedian(mode=2).VagueDenoiser(threshold=0.8, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=0.8)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, SdampLO=6, Szp=16)

dull=last
sharp=dull.LimitedSharpenFaster(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true,soft=75)
Soothe(sharp,dull,30)

c=last
GrainU=c.UtoY().AddGrain(1,0,0)
GrainV=c.VtoY().AddGrain(1,0,0)
Return ytouv(GrainU,GrainV).MergeLuma(c).AddGrain(5,0,0)

ok my error is as follows

Avisynth open failure:
Script error: there is no function named "mt_edge"
(C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs, Line 68)
(C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Test.avs, Line 43)

[Boulder]

Why not place all the plugins in the plugins folder. They will be autoloaded.

[demonicos]

They will? what so no need to manually load anything in the script, just the .dll or all the other stuff as well

[Boulder]

Yes. They just cannot be placed in any subfolders though.

Scripts can be automatically imported if you rename the extension .avs to .avsi and put the script in the plugins folder.

[demonicos]

Just one question regarding this with plugins like masktools etc that have alot of H, OBJ and RC files do i just disregard them or are they all needed

[foxyshadis]

All you need is the dll and the .html (which is the doumentation). Everything else is for developers.

[demonicos]

Cool but im still getting the same error for "mt_edge" im guessing i need more plugins

Here it is again
Avisynth open failure:
Script error: there is no function named "mt_edge"
(C:\PROGRA~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs, Line 68)
(C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Test.avs, Line 43)

[Boulder]

Are you sure that the MaskTools v2 alpha dll is in the plugins folder?

[demonicos]

Yeah ive got masktools-v2.0a28

[demonicos]

I finally sorted it all out the problem was with limited sharpenfaster i needed to use limitedsharpen and also soothe_MT2 i had to use soothe maybe i got the wrong masktools.dll for modded plugins i do not know maybe someone could shed some light on to this problem but its working with the original limitedsharpen and soothe :)

BTW as you all said it will be very hard to improve this well you were right but the crash course in filtering is greatly appreciated and is becoming very beneficial

[laserfan]

demonicos if you could would you please PLEASE post the "after" frames that result from your filtering.

I have an old-but-classic movie that I wish to attempt to sharpen myself; if you can improve Zulu, or not, that would be very helpful to know.

[demonicos]

Using the settings Chainmax gave me for a 2cd Xvid at 1300kbps gave the following results

Before Filtering
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Zulu%20Unfiltered.JPG

After Filtering
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Zulu%20Filtered.JPG

im gonna try to tone them down a bit tomorrow and see how it goes it shoulld be able to get a bit better than it is

For reference i did change the script experimenting but for this screenshot i use what chainmax suggested except order of resizing


tfm(d2v="C:\DVD\Rips\ZULU_VTS_01_PGC1\ZULU.d2v")

crop(16,114,694,344)

LanczosResize(544,256)

FixChromaBleeding()

FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)


a = last
b=a.degrainmedian(mode=2).VagueDenoiser(threshold=0.8, method=1, nsteps=6, chromaT=0.8)
SeeSaw(a,b, NRlimit=6, NRlimit2=7, Sstr=1.5, Slimit=5, Spower=5, SdampLO=6, Szp=16)

dull=last
sharp=dull.LimitedSharpen(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true)
Soothe(sharp,dull,30)

c=last
GrainU=c.UtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
GrainV=c.VtoY().AddGrain(2,0,0)
Return ytouv(GrainU,GrainV).MergeLuma(c).AddGrain(10,0,0)

[Boulder]

If it gets that bad after filtering, I would not filter at all :D

[Chainmax]

First of all, does the "after" screen come from viewing the script in VDub or from the encode itself? If it's the latter, then it might be that the bitrate you used just isn't enough. In any case, I'd suggest you to do the filtering in the order I recommended, or at the very least put the FixChromaBleeding and FFT3DFilter lines before the resizing. In addition, try replacing this;

LanczosResize(544,256)

with this

GaussResize(544,256,p=100)

and substituting this

dull=last
sharp=dull.LimitedSharpenFaster(SMode=4,LMode=3,Strength=1000,wide=true,soft=75)
Soothe(sharp,dull,30)

with this

LimitedSharpenFaster()

And keep the AddGrain settings I suggested, they are meant to cover up the lack of detail that will become painfully evident after sharpening such a smooth source.

[demonicos]

or at the very least put the FixChromaBleeding and FFT3DFilter lines before the resizing.

Oh ok i didnt realise that made a difference ill give it a try in the morning, Just one thing with cropping is that done before or after FixchromaBleeding/FFT3DFilter as when i had them seperated it gave me errors

example

crop(16,114,694,344)
FixChromaBleeding()
FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)
LanczosResize(544,256)

Gave errors



crop(16,114,694,344)
LanczosResize(544,256)
FixChromaBleeding()
FFT3DFilter(sigma=3,plane=3,bw=32,bh=32,bt=3,ow=16,oh=16)

Worked fine

This is why i changed the order what should have i done to get around the error

Error is
Avisynth open failure
ConvertToYUY2: Image width must be even. Use crop!
(C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\FixChromaBleeding.avs, Line 14)
(C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Zulu.avs, Line 16)

[foxyshadis]

That's a quite amazing result, very similar to what the Deconvolution method I mentioned earlier does but far quicker. I'm surprised SeeSaw and LimitedSharpen could bring that out, I must study it more! Once you have that you can use a fancy deblocker to clean up some of the revealed artifacts.

[laserfan]

I agree w/foxyshadis, that is actually quite a promising result.

Thanks demonicos, I'm looking forward to your further efforts!

[Chainmax]

...
This is why i changed the order what should have i done to get around the error

Error is
Avisynth open failure
ConvertToYUY2: Image width must be even. Use crop!
(C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\FixChromaBleeding.avs, Line 14)
(C:\Documents and Settings\Admin\Desktop\Zulu.avs, Line 16)

I don't know why that happens, but it might be because neither 694 nor 344 are MOD16 sizes. Try slightly increasing the cropping numbers so that you end up with a frame size of 688x336 and see what happens. By the way, what is the DAR (display aspect ratio) of this movie? It should be indicated in the back of the DVD case, saying something like 1:2.35, 1:1.85, 1:1.33 or similar.

[demonicos]

Honestly i does not say what the DAR is but comparing it to TORA TORA TORA which is 2:35.1 it looks slightly higher vertically

TORA TORA TORA
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/TTT%201.JPG

ZULU
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Zulu4.JPG

Im trying those suggestions now

The screenshot will show why i originally was using deinterlacing just my DVD player deinterlaces on the fly and is why my last shots looked field shifted, im still getting used to telecide and deinterlacing

[Chainmax]

Those screenshots are not of much use because they have been resized and black borders have been added. Anyway, according to this (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00008PC13/qid=1148948796/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-2879702-7983018?s=dvd&v=glance&n=130) it should be a 1:2.35 movie, so I'd suggest you to use 672,288 as the resize parameters.

[demonicos]

Unfortunatly it still returns the same error having a winge about FixChromaBleeding, Line 14

Im still trying though

<b>EDIT</b> Only in an unorthodox kind of way i managed to get that resolution you suggested i set the W-Modul to 16 H-Modul was at 16 from PAL anamorphic i selected custom AR 1.451 which has given me a resolution of 672x288 and an output AR of 2.328 -0.2% AR error. In case im making no sense heres a shot of the changes

Screenshot
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/AR%20display.JPG

[foxyshadis]

I don't think fixchromableeding will work for this, because it just offsets the chroma (you have to manually figure out the offset and modify the code if you don't want it to make things worse), whereas what's needed is something to try to match up the luma and chroma so you don't have to do it all.

[demonicos]

Actually if i disable FixChromaBleeding i dont get that error but now complains that theirs no function called GaussResize, Isnt GaussResize an internal Resizer does it need to be Loaded in the script

[foxyshadis]

Oh, if you don't have that you must be using an old Avisynth. Download 2.5.7b3 and see what happens now.

[demonicos]

oh that may explain why im getting so many errors does Masktools 2.0a28 require the new avisynth as i cannot get modded stuff to work ie LimitedSharpenFaster and Soothe_MT2 i can only use LimitedSharpen and Soothe ATM getting it now.

And it would be older as its the one that came with DVD-RB

<b>EDIT</b> I found AVS 2.5.7 Alpha 3 [220406] gauss resize now works off to try everything else that wouldnt work

[Didée]

@ demonicos: We could need a sample or two of the unprocessed original VOBs. The XviD sample is of no use.

If it gets that bad after filtering, I would not filter at all I agree w/foxyshadis, that is actually quite a promising result That's a quite amazing result, very similar to what the Deconvolution method I mentioned earlier does but far quicker. I'm surprised SeeSaw and LimitedSharpen could bring that out, I must study it more! Once you have that you can use a fancy deblocker to clean up some of the revealed artifacts.

Hihi. Yes, that result looks just terrible. But at the same time, yes, it looks quite promising.
The source would need some small lilliput-filters for cancelling out the artefacts before sharpening. (hint: discontinuities...)
Also, while FFT3D is an excellent denoiser, one has to be careful with it if some enhancement filtering will follow after it - especially in case of *big* enhancement.

However, throwing something out of the blue into the blue makes little sense. A sample is needed.


@ foxyshadis

Looking into SeeSaw might be an idea indeed. Not that it were very mature or finely tweaked, but the conceptual ideas have some points.

BTW, did you ever read the first page of the LimitedSharpen Thread?
LimitedSharpen() ... blabla ...
... by chaining several instances, it can even be used for something like a "poor man's deconvolution" - but only if one knows how to battle the noise ;)
One-and-a-half years ago, that was. ;)

[demonicos]

Heres the vobs each app 9MBs, i have rarred and passworded them as my ISP do offer free unlimited hosting but on a downside can see what i host and we dont exactly have fair use laws yet etc etc, password is simply zulu

http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Sample.rar
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Sample%202.rar
http://demonicos.wildit.net.au/Public/Images/Sample%203.rar

[2Bdecided]

I know everyone likes a challenge, but the DVD is only £6.97 at Amazon UK. I'm guessing it looks a little better than your copy! ;)

The film is on TV every year (well, it seems like it!), and the transfer is no where near this bad!

Cheers,
David.

[laserfan]

Jeez, David, you're no fun at all!!! ;)
I will admit though that I am more interested in the *possibilities* to clear-up such a fuzzy video, than Zulu itself (a great movie to be sure). I too would buy the DVD if a better version were available.

I've got another classic, "Lonesome Dove", which is 6 hours of highly mediocre, soft-focus video which has never been re-mastered and maybe never will (as it was made-for and broadcast-at 4:3).

But if Zulu can be improved then surely LD can! :D