Nero problem when burning

[Dionysus]

I have the newest version of Nero, I don't know if it's a good version but it says that Nero is the best one for burning VCD's. But when I encode my video, MPEG-1 Layer 1 or 2 can't remember and then I cut them and try to burn them I get this message;

The file c:\\WINDOWS....(file is located).mpg is invalid, need MPEG-1 which was encoded for Video-CD (then lists what my movie is made of, sound etc.)

Problems:
invalid stream: 23.976 fps, 720x480 pixels

you are creating a video CD V2.0 (cd-i-player) compliant Cd, but the MPEG file is not suitable for such a disc.


Does anyone have any idea what I've done when I was encoding it or what, cuz it came up before when I was doing an MPEG-2 and so I encoded it again MPEG-1 so... Hope someone can help.

Thanx

[smiller667]

Your resolution is wrong. Change it to 352 x 240 and you will be fine.
Both VCD (mpeg1) and SVCD (mpeg2) have rules as to which resolutions and framerates as well as bitrates are supported. The VCDImager docs contain an excellent outline: http://www.vcdimager.org/documentation.phtml
You might get away with doing an offstandard disc with higher resolutions (like you are attempting) and/or bitrates, but your chances of playing them in a standalone are pretty slim. Just uncheck the "standard-compliant" checkbox in Nero.

[Dionysus]

but at that resolution 352x240 won't it look all blocky when played at the normal size?? Cuz with the 720x480 I got rid of the blocky horizontal lines etc and now I'm think that your telling me to go way smaller but in turn making them blocky all over again??

[smiller667]

Of course image quality can be better at a higher resolution (if you give it enough bitrate).
My point was: if you do VCD, is is 352*240 (for NTSC people) mpeg1. If it is not, Nero complains.
If you want higher resolution, then go SVCD, this is mpeg2 @480*480 (and higher bitrate/less playing time per disc).
Other stuff might be possible (like the resolution you mentioned. In that case, uncheck "Standard compliant" in Nero & don't be surprised if your standalone does not like it.
The standards for VCD and SVCD (bitrates, resolutions, framerates) are explained in the link I gave you ...
One last point: blockiness is not simply a function of (low) resolution. Any resolution with too low a bitrate will show this effect, esp. in scenes with high motion.

[Milkman Dan]

What software are you using that would even let you make a VCD compliant stream at that resolution? The software itself should have told you you weren't using the correct resolution.

[Dionysus]

I'm just using the stuff in the guides that you can dl, I'm using TMPGEnc and it turns out super good and I like it but I can't burn it onto a disc and so I did what I was told to do and the quality on my computer is shitty but when I hook it up to my tv it looks perfect so... but no nothing came up saying that I was using the wrong resolution

[Dionysus]

okay now I cut the file into two and when I go to burn it it still tells me that I've done something wrong yet I've got the suggested bitrate for VCD and the Resolution at 320x240 or somewhere a long those lines and does the Framerate have to be at 29 or 23?? Cuz mine are at 23 so....

thanx

[Milkman Dan]

Well, you're right on one point. Tsunami doesn't tell you the stream you're making is non-compliant. bbMPEG does however, and that's what I tend to use anyway.

There is a FILM substandard for VCD, so that should be alright.

I've had problems with Tsunami's muxer before. Try muxing the files together in bb and see if it works then. Overall though, I don't bother with VCD. DivX all the way!

[Dionysus]

I have found DivX to be way harder, as I am a beginner at this, than doing the VCD/SVCD. I'd love to use DivX cuz the great reviews it gets but I'm just determined to try and figure the one thing that has worked for me so far, VCD. And DivX is compatible with standalone DVD players or is it just for computer use only??

[Milkman Dan]

It's computer use only, for now. I doubt hardware support would be that far away, but would almost certainly be a new purchase.

But to me, VCD just doesn't look good enough for the time spent. But nothing beats 4.7GB of my favorite anime series on a DVD-R. That's two seasons of stuff if I'm careful.

[Dionysus]

does this mean that I have to burn onto dvd's cuz the files or so big or do they fit onto 2 or 3 cd-r's?? I'm going to try this but I want to get the facts before I start it

thanx man

[dragonlz]

If you don't like the resolution of VCDs, then go with SVCD, they'll play in DVD players and you get a little resolution boost to 480x480

Going back to your inquiries about encoding VCD. It's extremely simple to encode VCD compliant streams in TMPG. In TMPG main screen, click on Load button(on the bottom, right next to settings) Then open the VideoCD (NTSC).mcf file in TMPG's template dir.

When you have that loaded, go in to settings and click on the advanced tab. In the video arrange method, make sure it's set to "full screen (keep aspect ratio 2). click okay and encode, if your resulting mpeg file is too big to fit on a CD, check out doom9's guide on how to split VCDs.