PgcEdit removed User Prohibitions: still no subtitle switch

[Chetwood]

I've used PgcEdit 0.631 to remove P-UOPs on my Scrubs Season 1 DVDs as illustrated in this zipped screenshots (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4022BD9D). In PowerDVD 4 I can switch between subtitles without any problems but when I do so on my standalone nothing happens.

Did I miss some settings or has it to do with the way the disc is authored? I've been messing around a bit, trying to make it start at with the episode selection menu which wasn't easy since all GMPRMs where in use.

[r0lZ]

There might be PUOs in the VOB files as well. Use the PUO plugin to remove them. (But if PowerDVD can switch between subtitles, it's probably not the problem.)

I know also that some standalone players have problems when a subpic stream has been removed in the middle of the list (for example with DVDShrink without the "logical remapping of enabled streams" option.) Have you removed some streams?

[Chetwood]

Yes, I only kept English and german and dropped the rest in between. And as has been discussed in some huge thread I can't find at the moment it's said it's better to have the logical remapping turned off in Shrink.

Curiously enough I still can use the language selection menu to switch to the desired subtitle. It's quite weird that I can switch audio from my remote but not subs.

[blutach]

I have a player that does not like "missing streams" and so I remap them in order. Need to reprogram the language menu buttons.

Regards

[r0lZ]

The DVDShrink plugin has a function to test if the DVDShrink's "logical remapping of enabled streams" option can be safely used with the current DVD.
Whenever possible, this option should be turned on.
But if there are indirect SetSTN commands in the DVD, since DVDShrink is unable to fix them automatically, the audio/subpic selection menus will probably not work properly any more.
In this latter case, I recommend turning the option off. You will not be able to select the subpic or audio with the remote on some players. If you can't live with that, use PgcEdit's Domain Streams Attributes to remove the entries of the blanked streams, and reprogram the SetSTN commands manually. (Requires some understanding of the VM language.)

[Chetwood]

MMh, seems I messed things up pretty badly cause now I can't open the DVD in Shrink anymore, due to bad navigation structure. Curiously enough I still can re-author and grab the episodes from it.

I have no idea why they authored the DVD like this but SetSTN appears 69 times and often even with GPRMs!

[blutach]

That appearance with gprms is the "indirect" setting of a SPRM chetwood. First a gprm is set and then this is transferred to the sprm (instead of setting the sprm directly with a number - eg 64 for subpic stream 0). This is precisely the thing that DVD Shrink can't adjust for in its Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams.

See here (http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=45228) for a full analysis of this option. The only time to keep it on, IMHO, is when PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) says its OK (ie ALL streams are set directly).

Regards