Win 64-bit projects - where art thou?

[starg4ze]

Does the authors of the excellent software that is beeing discussed in this forum, consider to port their software for (optimal)use in a computer, armed with XP x86_64? Yes, I know they all runs very well in the built-in WoW64(Windows-on-Windows...x86_32 emu), but I really would like the real thing.
Anyone? Sharktooth, my hero?

[Sirber]

What kind of project do you want in 64bit?

XP64 is not very friendly with encoding tools, since you need a 64bit version of every filters.

[lexor]

What kind of project do you want in 64bit?

XP64 is not very friendly with encoding tools, since you need a 64bit version of every filters.
wouldn't that logic make filters not very friendly with XP64?

[starg4ze]

What kind of project do you want in 64bit?

XP64 is not very friendly with encoding tools, since you need a 64bit version of every filters.

I would like to do all of my encoding in 64-bit. That would mean tha t the application(megui, staxrip), codec(x264), tools(avisynth, dg etc) and filters would need to be 64-bit. Some of them, like Avisynth, are available as 64-bit, but others don't.

Regarding frieldlyness(is that a real word?:rolleyes: ), are my brand new Macbook pro a good example of hardware being friendly...but when it comes to software for encoding dvds, it lags behind.

[akupenguin]

megui/staxrip/etc do not need to be 64bit, they don't interact with the filters or codecs except via commandline. The only frontends that have or need 64bit versions are those that do encoding internally (i.e. vdub).

[Sharktooth]

megui needs to be 64 bit coz it "interacts" heavily with avisynth.

[akupenguin]

Does it not work to have both 32bit and 64bit avisynth installed, and then megui uses one and x264cli uses the other, on the same script?

[lexor]

Does it not work to have both 32bit and 64bit avisynth installed, and then megui uses one and x264cli uses the other, on the same script?
if you going to have both versions of avs, why would you switch between them? Megui doesn't have assembly optimizations, it should be just a matter of recompile for it, if someone actually felt like doing it, though because of poor drivers support for my hardware (mostly my nforce3 chipset) I wouldn't go 64bit. I loose advantages to crappy drivers.

[ChronoCross]

I don't see massive 64-bit apps on windows until vista. Mainly because most people won't buy XP 64-bit. I know I won't due to program incompatibility.

[Oline 61]

If you want to encode in 64 bit, a GNU/Linux distro will probably be easier. IIRC x264 SVN complies fine with GCC on 64-bit Linux systems.

[lcx]

I compile everything need for I need for 64-bit on my own -- x264, the essential filters etc.
The source code is available.
Sometimes you need to make minor changes some files but mostly it is all there.

[squid_80]

Sometimes you need to make minor changes some files but mostly it is all there.
Ha, minor changes, that's a laugh. Mind sharing your complete 64-bit avisynth build, with all the inline assembly converted?

MeGUI doesn't need to be 64-bit, if it's compiled correctly it will run as a 32-bit process and talk to 32-bit avisynth fine. As long as there are 64-bit filters to match the ones used in the script, MeGUI can call a 64-bit version of x264 to encode.

[b9AcE]

Yeah, last week I gave up on running XP x64 on my main workstation.
Sure I guess I could get a couple of percent performance increase in some applications (thanks squid_80 for x264)
but that increase was too small to warrant the problematic drivers resulting in crashes or odd behaviour.
So, I agree with Oline 61: for now, if you need 64-bit for encoding, Linux is probably your buddy.

Unfortunately I can't find replacements for the sweet suite (GordianKnot, MeGUI and x264) in Linux,
and don't expect to do so until possibly when AVISynth 3 arrives to save us all... ;)
So I reverted to XP x32, but hey, that means I can play Oblivion while encoding again without getting rebooted every 10 minutes or so. :devil:

[starg4ze]

So, I agree with Oline 61: for now, if you need 64-bit for encoding, Linux is probably your buddy.



Yeah...probably so. I have 'lots of buddies...But my experience with XP 64 is quite good, and I'd like to try it with something more than just office and browsing...but all good to those who waits...sooner or later there might be a complete sollution for XP64, or whatever it will be called with Vista. I have a Partner subscription of all MS software so it is always fun to try out new things...

I guess I'll have to settle for encoding with my 2 linux boxes, 3 win32 boxes and my MacBook Pro then...;)