DVD Shrink vs DVD2One vs DVD95Copy

[rotty]

Can anybody tell me if there is much difference in quality (when compressing video files) between these programs.

Thanks

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Rather than rely on the opinions of others, I'd suggest you use each of the programs you've mentioned to rip the same DVD - and arrive at your own conclusion...

[Gurm]

Good vs. Irritating vs. "Why the hell bother?"

[elizerrojas]

the old dvdshrink is only second to nero recode2 when speaking about transcoders.

[jwo62]

Can anybody tell me if there is much difference in quality (when compressing video files) between these programs.

Thanks


Setarip is right,you should try the programs for yourself. there is a rule about asking what is best.

however,Dvd95copy has an advantage over the others,it can remove all unwanted material and yet still keep the menu. this leaves the most room for the actual video,without doing a movie only or re author. this program also rips all forms of copy protection and burns. unfortunatly,the demo of dvd95copy only lets you compress only part of a movie.

Dvd2one is the fastest and has a great title join feature. for movie only,it cant be beat. when used with dvdd and pgcedit,this is a great program too.

Dvdshrink is free, and when using deep analysis and adaptive error correction,the quality cant be matched by any other trancoders. deep analysis does take the longest time.

the bottom line,
all three programs have about the same video quality,unless you use deep analysis with DvdS,which takes much longer.

[linx05]

Here is a thread for DVD Shrink and DVD2One. http://forum.digital-digest.com/showthread.php?t=63668

[setarip_old]

Using individual still frames to compare video quality is not a valid concept...

[linx05]

How isn't it? It shows what we see on a per frame scale. I can't see what is so invalid about it?

[setarip_old]

Because, when you watch a movie, your brain does not interpret individual frames, it blends them into motion.

Also, some programs may handle things such as high action better, while others may handle color saturation better - and yet others may provide either a sharper or smoother video (Which of these two is "better" is subjective)...

[freelock7]

Objective vision take care of block noise resulting of a bad compression (quantization). Some details in the picture can be erased or blured by compression and finally, artefacts (pulsing) can appear when compression is very strong.

[writersblock29]

@linx05

(On using still frames for comparision purposes on transcoders)

There's also the consideration of exactly what frames you're comparing. If you captured an I frame from each source, for example, you may walk away thinking that DVD Shrink leaves the copy identical to the original; this is because DVD Shrink by default doesn't touch I frames, placing its reduction on P and B frames. DVD2ONE takes an equal amount off of everything... but there are certain times when that's actually a good thing (let's say your source didn't really require much compression -- or the original material was so top-heavy that removing already redundant bitrate made little noticable difference).

In the end, you're better off selecting clips (you can use DVD Shrink's editor for this, choosing "no compression" to ensure each sample is "pure") from each method and seeing which one you're pleased with.

Here's the rub, though: There are times when a transcoder will beat an encoder. There are times when a DVD2ONE project will hold more favor than a DVD Shrink project. Most people who check out quality-comparision-shootouts are looking to find out which program is clean-cut best-of-the-best so that they can use only this program. Saddly, this rarely happens.

The best advice I can give is the advice I myself follow: Find a method with which you like the majority of the end-results, and experiment with others when you run into a project that you feel could look better.

[rapscallion]

For a free program DVDShrink provides much more compression % info than the other 2 "payware" programs.

DVD2One will give a % a on movie only rip but not on a full disk.
DVD95Copy gives just one percentage info figure that doesn't change no matter what you remove.

I like to know exactly what the reduction is so that I can decide whether to transcode or encode.

Shrink is still my fav !

[jwo62]

Most people who check out quality-comparision-shootouts are looking to find out which program is clean-cut best-of-the-best so that they can use only this program. Saddly, this rarely happens.

This is very true.

I own Dvd2one,dvd95copy,nero recode2,dvdfab platinum as well as shrink. I use them all! I also dont regret paying for any of them. none of them have any kind of flaws or bugs that make them un usable.

programs are tools,a tool box with only one tool (vise gips?)isnt very useful,and the results wont be very good.



DVD95Copy gives just one percentage info figure that doesn't change no matter what you remove.

actually,it does change,or maybe I should say,it can be changed,it just needs a little help.:)

[thecarguy]

i use dvdshirnk and have no problems. i just used my free trial of any dvd 5.9 have a few more days before i have to buy it,helped remove the copyright on one of my dvds.

[rapscallion]

snipped....
actually,it does change,or maybe I should say,it can be changed,it just needs a little help.:)

But that's the point, it's a "pay" program and shouldn't need "help". Shrink display the % clearly and concisely.

I do find the join 2 disk feature helpful with flippers though

[jwo62]

Hi rapscallion :)


But that's the point, it's a "pay" program and shouldn't need "help". Shrink display the % clearly and concisely.

No program is perfect.

Not just in the dvdbackup world,but ALL programs need updates and bug fixes. thats why they have version numbers.

All you have to do to refresh the compression percentage is click on the "Repack Titleset To" column, its not a big deal,and the author of the program has said he will fix it.

dvd95copy does many things dvdshrink does not do,and the program is continually having new features and improvements added. support is also available direct from the author.:)

But thats OK. everyone has a right to choose there own program of preference. everyone has different specific needs and expectations. Thats exactly why the "what is best" questions are so controversial.

I use dvd95copy for most movies ,of average length and/or has a second aspect ratio that can be removed and/or has a lot of extras that can be removed without the loss of the menus.

I use dvd2one for movie only copies and joining titles.

I use dvdshrink for longer movies where the deep analysis will be worth the wait.

I, am perfectly happy using these three programs to backup dvds with. personally,I dont believe in a "one size fits all" mentality.

I should mention that I purchased both Dvd2one and Dvd95copy before Dvdshrink was even available. If Dvdshrink was avaiable first,I may not have purchased the others. there is nothing that any of the "payware" programs can do that free programs cant.


I do find the join 2 disk feature helpful with flippers though

actually,this feature,from my experience,is seriously flawed. most times I have used it,I had to use ifoedit to create new ifos. The goodfellas flipper disc.

Dvd2ones join feature ,when using 'non seamless' mode, is much more reliable.

Jim :)

P.S.

If you dont like the pecentage feature in D95C,I suggest contacting digi and telling him so. he is very resposive to specific requests.

http://www.dvd95copy.com/problem_report.htm

[mhyatt]

Thanks for the informative posts, I'm torn between Dvdshrink and Dvd2one.

[battscrew]

I had the same questions when I first started - its all subjective to your viewing preferencs and the type of equipment you use to view. That being said DVDshrink and DVDrebuilder are my software of choice.

[birdie_in_texas]

i find that using Shrink works fine 95% of the time for me..sometimes you have to hit it with DVDDecryptor first, and sometimes VOBLanker after that, then Shrink..but these freebies have saved me thousands in having to replace my kids disney collection and other movies..

good luck!

[elizerrojas]

On shrink; and dvd2one are my software of choice theses days.
on Rebuilder produces the best quality, i have used it a few times with HC but it takes way toooo long(6 to 7 houres), that is unacceptable.
On Recode2; the best transcoder at the momment but, i'm not using it because, although slower, little shrink does as good a job as it. i'm speaking of picture quality.

[rapscallion]

jwo62....no argument on any of your points. I was just making an observation as to how effective Shrink is for a program that's hasn't been updated/supported for some time.

And to throw one more into the mix. CloneDVD2 (Elby) does a nice job of doing a transcode with movie and menus only mode, which Shrink can not.