Is it Possible to convert DVD video to a lossless avi file?

[nukesgoboom]

I have some old VHS tapes that i have converted to DVD. now, i want to take the video off the DVD and make a lossless avi file so that i can edit it, i personally use virtual dub.

is there anyway i can convert a dvd to a lossless avi?

also, i use WinAvi to convert video files to dvd format. it works well for me, but i was wondering if there was a better program?

thanks for your time and take care.

[BigDid]

I have some old VHS tapes that i have converted to DVD. now, i want to take the video off the DVD and make a lossless avi file so that i can edit it, i personally use virtual dub...
Hi,

Lossless avi= lossless codec? then: Huffyuv, Snow, Lagarith and others, not really familiar with it, but will have huge size, use search.

Or near lossless matrix for use in xvid like the Eqmv3EHR from Sharktooth here:http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=552539#post552539

Did

[nukesgoboom]

well i have a bunch of .vob and .ifo files after getting the DVD content onto my my pc, and i was wondering if there was any way i could create a non compressed .avi file to use with virtual dub.

i would like this .avi file created from the .vob and .ifo files to not be compressed, meaning not using an xvid codec or divx or anything, because i want to edit the file and then burn it back to a dvd, and if i went from dvd format to xvid format and then to dvd format i would lose quality!

thanks for replying.

[BigDid]

... i would like this .avi file created from the .vob and .ifo files to not be compressed, meaning not using an xvid codec or divx or anything, because i want to edit the file and then burn it back to a dvd, and if i went from dvd format to xvid format and then to dvd format i would lose quality!

thanks for replying.
You are welcome, please note (from Sharktooth thread):
"This is an EXTREMELY HIGH BITRATE matrix designed for constant quality encodings ONLY. Compressibility is "ridiculus" in comparison with other high-bitrate matrices but there is a reason... It's application is pretty obvious: it's for backing up original material or HD material without using lossless codecs."

If you are familiar with Xvid, the settings are: "1-pass only: ME6, VHQ=1, no b-frames, chroma ME, EQM EHR, constant quantizer = 2" ;more in Teegedeck thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=796900#post796900

Did

[nukesgoboom]

i read through the thread that you posted, and i have to say, im a huge noob. i dont understand most of the technical vernacular being used in that conversation, but thank you very much for showing me the thread.

is that thread talking about some software to take .ifo and .vob files and make a single high quality .avi? if so, could you please tell me where exactly i download this? and also the name of the program?

sorry if i seem very new... i know it might make someone like you with alot of knowledge become impatient.

[BigDid]

Sorry, my bad

As you have stated in your first post that "i personally use virtual dub", it was my (false) understanding that you were just looking for some infos to use in VDub.

For the lossless codecs, sorry please try to find other infos

For Xvid, -basically/theorically- you need
*an avisynth script that tells VDub where/how is the source (VOBs),
*to feed VDub with that script and
*to give the proper settings to the xvid codec(or other codec) and encode inside VDub.

There are other solutions but maybe not all-in-one or newby friendly :(
If editing is needed, it can be done inside the avisynth-script for cropping, resizing, deinterlacing, filtering etc...

So you need the know-how for
-avisynth
-VDub
-xvid or other codecs.
For a start, you can take a look at the different guides here: http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/guides.htm

These are the limits of my actual knowledge or non-knowledge, :) other contributions welcomed.

Did

[setarip_old]

@nukesgoboom

Hi!

If by "editing" you are referring ONLY to cutting out some pieces from your DVD, then there's no need to convert to .AVI, cut, and then reconvert to DVD.

Instead, you could simply use (freeware) DVD Shrink in "Re-author" mode to accomplish the same thing - without any conversions...

[nukesgoboom]

wow! so i can use DVDshrink and that will do what i want? thats great because i know how to use DVDshrink. ill try using that and see how it goes!!

also thanks for the link to the guides thread, ill be sure to read that in detail.

thanks again you guys for helping me

[setarip_old]

thanks again you guys for helping meMy (Our) pleasure ;>}

[BigDid]

wow! so i can use DVDshrink and that will do what i want? thats great because i know how to use DVDshrink. ill try using that and see how it goes!!
Please note that unless your DVD source (Vobs) is equal or less than 4.4GB (1DVD simple coat) the transcoding made by DVD Shrink will not be lossless; Beside that, DVD Shrink is an excellent solution for your objective, good luck.

also thanks for the link to the guides thread, ill be sure to read that in detail.

thanks again you guys for helping me
You are welcome. :)

Did

[Orexic]

I ahve quite successfully used Magic DVD Ripper......

[chongy5]

Which according to my googlesearch costs approx. $34.97.
DVD Shrink is free. I think he'll be fine using shrink.

[awx]

You can use Vob2Mpg (http://www.svcd2dvd.com) to get a lossless .mpg file from a DVD. The video and audio are identical but you do lose subs and chapters.

VOB2MPG is a very simple, easy to use, tool to convert the vobs files found in DVD folders (VIDEO_TS) into normal mpegs which can then be played, edited or reauthored.

[lisa_8023]

Maybe you can upgrade the WinAVI (http://www.winavi.com/avi-to-dvd.htm) to newest version.

[Prodoc]

Sorry to bump the thread again but I figured it's better than to start a new one.

I'd like to be able to convert parts of a vob file to mpg, or any other format as long as I don't loose video quality at all (=lossless 'transcoding'). Can this be done with Vob2Mpg as well or does it only deal with complete DVD's/vob files? Just asking before I start installing .Net 2.0 for nothing ;)
If Vob2Mpg doesn't have this feature, which clean and simple program do you recommend me to use?

[communist]

VOB files contain the same thing mpg files contain - MPEG1/2 etc.
You just need to demux ('split') the VOB files to audio and video streams and remux ('merge') them to mpg.
For demuxing you can use DGIndex, for muxing you can use Imago MPEG Muxer. No need to install .NET 2.0 ;)

[Prodoc]

Is there no 'all-in-one' program available that allows me to 'remux' parts of VOB files? (with viewable frame selecting precision)

[olyteddy]

Is there no 'all-in-one' program available that allows me to 'remux' parts of VOB files? (with viewable frame selecting precision)
With any form of MPEG if you cut on anything but an I frame, you will have to re-encode at least at the cut point. That means if you have a GOP (Group of Pictures) of 15, you can only cut on .5 second boundaries without some re-encoding.

[cweb]

If you just want to cut parts of a VOB, you can produce an MPEG using software like mpg2cut2 (http://www.geocities.com/rocketjet4). Then you can use Virtualdub on the resulting file to convert to an AVI.