Title sets not shown

[moviefan]

I'm using DVD-RB 0,93. I've just had the problem that when loading a certain DVD not all title sets are shown in the "Video Title Sets" section. There are 6 title sets on my DVD, but only 1, 2, 3 and 6 appear. Reencoding the disc doesn't work properly as Nero complains that the encodet disc is not DVD Video compliant. What's wrong?!

[setarip_old]

1) What is the Title and Regionof your original, purchased DVD?

2) What software and procedures did you use to rip it to your hard drive?

3) Doe shte hard drive rip play properly, including the contents of of titlesets 4 and 5?

[Rockas]

I'm using DVD-RB 0,93. I've just had the problem that when loading a certain DVD not all title sets are shown in the "Video Title Sets" section. There are 6 title sets on my DVD, but only 1, 2, 3 and 6 appear. Reencoding the disc doesn't work properly as Nero complains that the encodet disc is not DVD Video compliant. What's wrong?!
First off all.. you should update... 0.97 Free is out :)

Second... if you want to re-encode all the VTSs you must add VTS_MIN_SIZE=1 on [options] section of Rebuilder.ini file... ex:
[Options]
VTS_MIN_SIZE=1

note. The [Options] section is already there... you just have to add
VTS_MIN_SIZE=1

About Nero... can you give us the exact message it throws?
I can Imagine that it will be a message with no importance... this has been discussed many times before... Nero doesn't like 0 lenght files but if your Original DVD has them so will the backup made by DVD Rebuilder... but don't worry ... the DVD will play as fine as the Original.

[jdobbs]

@moviefan

By default DVD Rebuilder does not reencode VTS sets that are less than 50MB. That's because the time/effort involved is not considered justified by DVD-RB for the amount of space recovered. Those VTSs are left intact and are just copied into the output directory. But, as Rockas mentioned, you can override this setting by changing the minimum size that will be encoded. By changing the value of VTS_MIN_SIZE to 1 you will have told DVD Rebuilder to reencode any VTS that is at least 2K (one sector) long.

[moviefan]

Okay, I'm encoding again. On the original DVD there were vob-files with size 0kb. DVD-RB copied those title sets in the rebuilding process without encoding, but when I tried to burn the DVD with Nero, it said something like: VTS_01_0.vob is not referenced and therefore shouldn't exist (that is translated and maybe incorrect), but when I deleted the named vobs, Nero would have burnt it. I don't know if the DVD had worked, but I want to make DVD-RB rebuild a properly working DVD. Any further ideas, or is the problem solved with also encoding small title sets (VTS_MIN_SIZE 1)?

[Rockas]

No!
That is a stupid error message thrown by Nero... Ignore it...
Nero thinks that is smarter than the authoring application... maybe that is why he burned down Rome :D

[moviefan]

As much as I would like this "stupid error message" to be ignorable it isn't. Yesterday I burnt the encoded DVD (with only 4 of 6 title sets shown in DVD-RB), Nero complained, and it only worked on the Standalone DVD-Player of a friend, not on mine. My friend's player is a newer one with a lot more features and can play more formats, but mine at least has always played properly burnt DVD-Rs (as long as Nero didn't complain). So there MUST be something wrong with the rebuilding process, most probable an error in updating the ifo-files.

[cobo]

Sounds like a problem with the authoring of the original DVD rather than something caused by Rebuilder. Try opening the DVD with PgcEdit (http://www.videohelp.com/~r0lZ/pgcedit/index.html) and allow it to make any fixes it offers to. I've had one DVD like that - the original would play without any problems and so would the mounted .iso that was made with Rebuilder but the burned back-up wouldn't play properly until I ran the files though PgcEdit and burned those to a disc.

[moviefan]

Okay, I'll try, but I'm wondering, if it is a problem with the authoring of the original DVD, why is that DVD working on my very picky Standalone DVD-Player, but the backed-up one is not? Should it be the same problem with the original?

[jdobbs]

It isn't a problem with DVD-RB, nor is is a problem with the original DVD. It is a problem with Nero.

There is a very simple way to fix it. Don't use Nero.

[moviefan]

But ignoring Nero's warning results in a malfunctioning DVD. Does it really make a difference, if I use another burning software?

[Rockas]

probably yes... I think sometimes Nero changes some files.

[jdobbs]

Sigh...

I'm not going to argue about it. I've given you the answer -- it's up to you to decide whether to accept it. The bottom line is that DVD-RB creates compliant streams. What Nero does with it after that is something for Nero to address.

The Professional Edition creates its own ISO and burns it with ImgBurn or DVD Decrypter. The reason it uses ImgBurn or DVD Decrypter is because they work correctly -- and they are both free.

[moviefan]

Okay, I'll wait until the encoding process is finished and try to proceed the way you suggested. Hopefully this time it'll work.

[jdobbs]

Please don't delete any VTSs... that will make the sector offsets incorrect and the disc will not work. You need to burn it exactly as it was written. If Nero complains -- override it.