Is not a ECL for CCE SP Trial Version.....

[0verd0ze]

Hey .. i got some problems with my encoder ...

i have prepared the dvd and wanna encode ...

and a windows popups with the title CCE SP Trial Version and saying

D:\TEMP DIR\D2AVS/item01.ecl is not a ECL for CCE SP Trial Version.

whys that ?

[Rockas]

Seems like you are, probably, using CCE 2.70 Trial but you didn't selected CCE Trial on the CCE Settings menu.

[0verd0ze]

Seems like you are, probably, using CCE 2.70 Trial but you didn't selected CCE Trial on the CCE Settings menu.

its set on CCE SP Trial but i could have done something wrong in the setup window .. will check that

[markrb]

You do not need ECL with 2.70 trial.
You need it with 2.5 trial.
I am not sure about the 2.6X versions.

Opps I was thinking ECLcce the program.

Mark

[jdobbs]

Post your REBUILDER.INI file and it will make it much easier to see what's wrong.

[0verd0ze]

[Options]
TargetSectors=2269696
Mode=1
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=0
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
SkinVersion=12
Skin=Rebuilder Default
AudioDub=1
QuEncodeType=0
iDCT=0
GOP=0
DCPrec=0
MainMatrix=Encoder Default
LowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
VLowMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ExtraMatrix=Same as Main Feature
ProCoder_Quality=4
DVD_Label=+++++HARLEM
DVD_Name=+++++HARLEM.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=00000000
Convert_16_9=00000000
DisableInterlace=00000000
ConvertToYUY2=1
CCE=1
[Paths]
QuEnc=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\QuEnc\QuEnc.exe
ReJig=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\ReJig\ReJig.exe
HC=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\HC Encoder\HCbatch.EXE
ProCoder=C:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Encoders\EclPro\EclPro.exe
DECOMB=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\Decomb521.dll
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll
Working=D:\TEMP DIR\
Output=D:\
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
Source=D:\+++++HARLEM\VIDEO_TS\
[Audio]
Selected=1111111
Remapping=
[Subpictures]
Selected=
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=16
eclPasses=2

[jdobbs]

According to the INI you haven't selected "CCE SP (Trial)" in the SETTINGS/CCE SETTINGS menu -- you've selected "CCE SP". The ECL file headers are different for the two encoders.

After you change it you will have to do the PREPARE again.

[0verd0ze]

According to the INI you haven't selected "CCE SP (Trial)" in the SETTINGS/CCE SETTINGS menu -- you've selected "CCE SP". The ECL file headers are different for the two encoders.

After you change it you will have to do the PREPARE again.

WHOA .. thanx alot .. it worked !! but .. haha

it set the targetsectors to 4,32 gb but it turned out to be 4,38 ....
why does that happen ?

would it help if it set the CCEtargetsectors to 4,32gb also ?

[Boulder]

it set the targetsectors to 4,32 gb but it turned out to be 4,38 ....
why does that happen ?

Now what's this?

TargetSectors=2269696

;)

[jdobbs]

why does that happen ?
Because you told it to. Setting the value to 2269696 is directing the program to output a size of 4.39GB.

Here's how to calculate the target:

TargetSectors * 2048 * 1.015 = Total bytes in output.

So 2269696 would equal 4,718,062,469 bytes -- or 4.394GB.

BUT... encoders aren't that accurate so they will swing a little above or below the target.

[0verd0ze]

Because you told it to. Setting the value to 2269696 is directing the program to output a size of 4.39GB.

Here's how to calculate the target:

TargetSectors * 2048 * 1.015 = Total bytes in output.

So 2269696 would equal 4,718,062,469 bytes -- or 4.394GB.

BUT... encoders aren't that accurate so they will swing a little above or below the target.

got damn ... i did 1024 :P bah .... well thanx alot guys :)
really appreciate the help ...

sooo ... 2236154 would be the right size for 4,33 gb :)

[jdobbs]

The default value is 2236400.

[0verd0ze]

The default value is 2236400.

and default feels to be perfect ..

2236400 * 2048 * 1,015 = 4 648 849 408 bytes = 4.3295784 gigabyte

[jptheripper]

and default feels to be perfect ..

2236400 * 2048 * 1,015 = 4 648 849 408 bytes = 4.3295784 gigabyte


and thats why its the default ;)

[jdobbs]

That size gives you just enough room for play in case of oversizing by the encoder and it also leaves the flakey outside sectors out of the picture.

[0verd0ze]

now i got a new problem ... hehe

- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 87.4%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,027/4,022Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,250,128KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,267/3,863/4,022 Kbs

i need that info explained a lil because for example i dont know which is the final bitrate after the encoder ..

[Rockas]

Is your source NTSC?

[jdobbs]

Everything I'm telling you below relates to NTSC:

- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 87.4%

This is the compression amount necessary for the video to fit on a DVD+-R after considering the audio/subpictures that may have been removed.

- Overall Bitrate : 5,027/4,022Kbs

This tells you first the resultant bitrate (5,027Kbs) at 29.97fps and the encoder bitrate (4,022Kbs) at a constant frame rate of 23.976. The true playback bitrate (what you'd see on your player) is the first one. It's there so people will stop asking "Why is the bitrate different from my calculations?"

- Space for Video : 4,250,128KB

How much of the space on the DVD+-R can be used for video (as opposed to audio/subpictures etc.)

- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,267/3,863/4,022 Kbs

Each segment is given a different average bitrate based upon an analysis of the original stream and the allocation it had. This shows the HIGH, LOW and TYPICAL average bitrates applied to each of the segments. These are all bitrates that are fed to the encoder at a constant framerate of 23.976fps. The playback bitrate is actually 25% higher.

The segments for NTSC are all encoded at a constant framerate of 23.976fps to support hybrid streams. If you want to find out more do a search -- because it's been talked to death...

[JohnGalt]

If you want to find out more do a search -- because it's been talked to death...

add it to the FAQ stickie. maybe expand q13.

[0verd0ze]

Is your source NTSC?

Yes, its NTSC

Everything I'm telling you below relates to NTSC:

- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 87.4%

This is the compression amount necessary for the video to fit on a DVD+-R after considering the audio/subpictures that may have been removed.

- Overall Bitrate : 5,027/4,022Kbs

This tells you first the resultant bitrate (5,027Kbs) at 29.97fps and the encoder bitrate (4,022Kbs) at a constant frame rate of 23.976. The true playback bitrate (what you'd see on your player) is the first one. It's there so people will stop asking "Why is the bitrate different from my calculations?"

- Space for Video : 4,250,128KB

How much of the space on the DVD+-R can be used for video (as opposed to audio/subpictures etc.)

- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4,267/3,863/4,022 Kbs

Each segment is given a different average bitrate based upon an analysis of the original stream and the allocation it had. This shows the HIGH, LOW and TYPICAL average bitrates applied to each of the segments. These are all bitrates that are fed to the encoder at a constant framerate of 23.976fps. The playback bitrate is actually 25% higher.

The segments for NTSC are all encoded at a constant framerate of 23.976fps to support hybrid streams. If you want to find out more do a search -- because it's been talked to death...

jdobbs, thanks a lot, really appreaciate help from the master