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Buckwheat2005
19th March 2006, 09:07
My computer has rebooted twice during backing up a dvd. First is when I tried to backup Friends Dvd and I had menu encoding selected, the computer would reboot during the rebuild stage after successfully doing the encode process. For my third attempt I turned off menu encoding and the dvd backup sucessfully.

For the next dvd, another Friends dvd, I had menu encoding turned off and the computer rebooted during the rebuild stage.

[21:05:58] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE 2.70.2.6 encoder selected.
- VTS_01: 2,988,758 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 261,044 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 71.2%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,660/2,928Kbs
- Space for Video : 3,891,100KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 2,942/786/2,928 Kbs
[21:09:38] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 4 minutes.
[21:09:38] Phase II ENCODING started
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 8
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 9
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 10
- Extracting STILLS for VTS_01 segment 11
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 12
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 13
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 14
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 15
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 16
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 17
[00:37:11] Phase II ENCODING completed in 208 minutes.
[00:37:11] Phase III, REBUILD started.
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_01
- Reading/processing TMAP table...
- Rebuilding seg 0 VOBID 1 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_01
- Rebuilding seg 1 VOBID 2 CELLID 1
- Updating NAVPACKS for VOBID_02
- Rebuilding seg 2 VOBID 3 CELLID 1

After searching the forums, someone had their computer reboot because of using different avisynth or dgdecode.dll versions. I had recently installed AutoGk 2.27 and it has new versions of avisynth 2.56a, DGIndex 1.4.6.

No, my computer is not overheating as I actually done over a dozen rebuilds. Yesterday I added two fans and removed a hard drive cage and did cable management to improve air flow in the case.

I am going to uninstall AuoGk 2.27 and see if that is causing the problem and use the avysynth and dgindex that came with Dvd RB.
jdobbs
19th March 2006, 12:00
You can have another version of DGIndex installed -- but the DGDECODE provided with it can't be used with DVD-RB. For DVD-RB you must use one of the supported versions of DGDECode. If you are using the Rebuilder Installer, DGDecode v1.4.5 is installed within the Rebuilder directory structure.

I'm not sure whether it has any relationship to your problem, though, as random rebooting more typically is a sign of a hardware problem. A little surprising that it happened during a rebuild -- because that stage involves very little processing and a lot of I/O. Any recent upgrades to drives/drivers?
Rockas
19th March 2006, 13:05
@Buckwheat2005
Have you tried a full scandisk on your drives?
or maby a change of the cables?
Buckwheat2005
19th March 2006, 18:10
I uninstalled AutoGk 2.27 and uninstalled avisynth 2.56a. I reinstalled Dvd RB 1.09.

I did the backup of the 2nd Friends Dvd that rebooted during the rebuild stage and it complted successfully.

I'm going to try back up the 1st dvd again to see if it reboots during the rebuild stage.

I did add another hardrive when I did add the two new fans and the cable management.

The dvd files were not on the new drive as I used the same drives and workfolders as before.
jdobbs
19th March 2006, 18:21
Interesting... thanks.

Was the new drive on the same IDE bus as the one you used?
Buckwheat2005
19th March 2006, 21:55
Interesting... thanks.

Was the new drive on the same IDE bus as the one you used?

no. they are all sata drives. the new sata drive is on a separate silicon image controller. The other three drives where I have the dvd rb folders are on a nvidia controller.
Buckwheat2005
19th March 2006, 23:21
I just finished backing up the 1st dvd successfully, the friends dvd with menu encoding on with the same settings. With menu encoding on (and Auto GK 2.27 installed) the computer rebooted twice during the rebuild stage. I had to turn off menu encoding to back up the dvd.

A 2nd Friends Dvd with menu encoding turned off rebooted again during the rebuld stage.

I uninstalled AuotGk 2.27 and avisynth 2.56.a and both back ups completed sucessfully with menu encoding on.

I think I can safely say that either avisynth 2.56.a and/or the dgdecode that came with AutoGk 2.27 does not work with Dvd Rb 1.08.1 or 1.09.
Rockas
19th March 2006, 23:29
in that case the problem must be on your AviSynth 2.56.a ... You can have 20 different "dgdecodes" on your system... as long as you don't touch the one on Rebuilder's folder, you won't have any problems with them :)
Where did you get your AviSynth installation?
jdobbs
19th March 2006, 23:52
I've been testing 2.56 for quite a while now and haven't had problems... not sure about 2.56a. This is good info to keep in waiting for the next time someone see this.
Buckwheat2005
19th March 2006, 23:58
in that case the problem must be on your AviSynth 2.56.a ... You can have 20 different "dgdecodes" on your system... as long as you don't touch the one on Rebuilder's folder, you won't have any problems with them :)
Where did you get your AviSynth installation?

The Avisynth installation was part of the AutoGk 2.27 installer, there was no option that I could see, not to install avisynth 2.56.a.
jdobbs
20th March 2006, 00:00
So right now we're not sure if it is Avisynth 2.56a causing the problem -- or something particular about the way AutoGK installs it...
Rockas
20th March 2006, 00:07
I don'r know if AutoGK uses a custom intallation package... but I wonder... what has Rebuild phase to do with AviSynth? I can't see a connection here?!?!

@Buckwheat2005
Have you tried Rebuilder Installer with Avisynth not installed? Rebuilder's installer will install avisynth for you.
jdobbs
20th March 2006, 00:12
Hmmm... good question. Neither AVISYNTH nor DGDECODE is used at all during REBUILD. The only time they are used is during the ENCODE phase. REBUILD is just a lot of disc I/O...
Rockas
20th March 2006, 00:20
The facts lead me to another question... Can we have just a bunch of coincidences in this case? This can be an hardware issue.
Another point is the relation between "menu encoding" and "avisynth" and "Rebuild phase"... ummm... maybe we should call Hitchcock!?!?!

@Buckwheat2005
Heve you tried several atemps without touching the software installed
Carpo
20th March 2006, 00:27
i have been using 2.5.6a for a while with no issues, i use sata drives when i do my backups (again no issues there) mind u i use the ports on the mobo for mine not a sata card, i do tend to keep my drives in good health, it sounds to me like a hardware issue due to the reboots, u can always turn off the option to reboot on an error and let it BSOD - least that way it will give you a rough idear of where the error is comming from

not the best of idears i know but all i can think of at this last time of night :)
Buckwheat2005
20th March 2006, 02:20
what has Rebuild phase to do with AviSynth? I can't see a connection here?!?!

@Buckwheat2005
Have you tried Rebuilder Installer with Avisynth not installed? Rebuilder's installer will install avisynth for you.


I uninstalled avisynth 2.5.6.a and reinstalled Dvd Rb 1.09 using the installer, it installed avisynth.


Hmmm... good question. Neither AVISYNTH nor DGDECODE is used at all during REBUILD. The only time they are used is during the ENCODE phase. REBUILD is just a lot of disc I/O...

Yes, I know both are used during the encode phase.

However, the problem only occurs when using menu encoding on a particular disc, it rebooted twice during the rebuild phase. It rebuilt successfully when menu encoding was off.

The 2nd dvd rebooted during the rebuild phase with menu enocding off.

I never had a problem with menu encoding only with the two friends dvd's.

Both Dvd's backup successfuly with menu encoding enabled.

My sata drives are on the mobo and not a card. It is not a hardware issue. I've been doing some pretty intensive disc I/O and no problems even during a Dvd RB.

My question can you have a encode that is successful but is corrupted somehow and during the rebuild phase it does not conform to dvd specs and rebuilder does not know to handle it and reboots the computer ?
jdobbs
20th March 2006, 02:52
No. DVD-RB never reboots. Something other than DVD-RB is causing this... otherwise it would be happening on the several thousand other computers running it...
Boulder
20th March 2006, 09:22
Does it just reboot without a warning or do you get the notorious blue screen for a short while?

You could check the system logs whether there would be something of interest there. (Control panel->Administrative tools->Event viewer)
Buckwheat2005
21st March 2006, 05:05
The facts lead me to another question... Can we have just a bunch of coincidences in this case? This can be an hardware issue.
Another point is the relation between "menu encoding" and "avisynth" and "Rebuild phase"... ummm... maybe we should call Hitchcock!?!?!

@Buckwheat2005
Heve you tried several attempts without touching the software installed

Yes, too many coincidences.

I am narrowing it down to one of the hard drives, a newly bought 150 GB Raptor.

I am testing something out at the moment and see if the problem is fixed.