Problems burning DVD+R DL (8.5GB) disc with nero

[deathmule]

i made a DVD that was 8.31GB and that should fix on a DVD+R DL (8.5GB) disc right? when i try to burn it NERO saids V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/deathmule/DVDdlnero2.jpg
is there a setting that i have to change to burn DVD+R DL disc?

the disc im using is V
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/deathmule/DVDRDL2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/deathmule/DVDRDL3.jpg

heres my files and file size
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/deathmule/DVDdlvdts2.jpg

[CWR03]

Use DVD Decryper to get the media code for your disk, then check http://www.videohelp.com/dvdmedia to make sure the media is considered reliable. Afterwards check http://www.videohelp.com/dvdwriters to see if your burner supports this media, then update your burner's firmware.

Unless things have changed recently, the only DL media known to be reliable is the Verbatim brand.

[setarip_old]

@deathmule

Hi!

Are you certain that your burner is capable of burning DL DVD+R or DL media of ANY type?

What is the brand and model number of your burner?

[r0lZ]

"Disc type in the recorder: (Empty)" is a very bad sign! Sounds like your burner doesn't recognize it!

[Groasnicu']

The DVD Disk has 8 500 000 000 bytes.
1GB = 1024 x 1024 x 1024 = 1 073 741 824 bytes.
So, 8 500 000 000/1 073 741 824 = 7.916 GB and that's the max of the disk.
However is indicate that your DVD data to be max 7.5 GB so you can choose the position of Layer Break

[v_spec]

i made a DVD that was 8.31GB and that should fix on a DVD+R DL (8.5GB) disc right? when i try to burn it NERO

I don't you guys are giving him the right answer. By looking at what he posted he's saying a 8.31GB DVD would not fit on a 8.5GB DL disc.

Just to let you know deathmule, you do not get 8.5GB with ANY dual layer discs you buy on the market even if it states 8.5GB on the cover.

The actual amount of storage you get is 7.96GB

Same goes with single layer media, you do not get 4.7GB you only get 4.36GB. The problem is how manufacturers got lazy and rounded down everything and didn't use the actual number for bytes which is 1024, instead they used 1000.

[geoffman]

The problem is how manufacturers got lazy and rounded down everything and didn't use the actual number for bytes which is 1024, instead they used 1000.

That's not quite correct. Storage media has always been quoted with a base of 1,000 as opposed to 1,024 (or 2^10), it is the standard method unless the manufacturer states otherwise, it has nothing to do with the manufacturer being lazy!

A byte used to defined as the data bus width of the processing system used, be it 4 bit etc, thus the meaning of a byte changed dependant on the system processor used, this is talking pre microprocessor days btw, it actually a termed coined in 1957 by a guy working for IBM designing mainframes and when first used his byte (bite) was actually 4 bits of info.

[pahhhoul]

I'm currently also having problems with NERO & DVD Shrink(v3.2) burning 8.5gb DL DVDs. Whenever I try to burn one... I always get the message "compliation will not fit onto disc"..?

I have a NEC 3550a with v1.06 firmware, NERO 6, WinXP SP2.

Is there a specific setting I need to adjust..?

thanx,
paul

[CWR03]

Use ImgBurn. I don't believe Nero 6 supports DL burning, and even if it does it won't set the layer break correctly.

[r0lZ]

Do NOT use Shrink to build the ISO neither. It doesn't support DLs.
Use ONLY ImgBurn v2 to burn ALL your DVD-Videos (either IFO/BUP/VOB files or ISOs) and you will never have a problem!

[setarip_old]

I don't believe Nero 6 supports DL burningThis is incorrect...

[CWR03]

Will Nero 6 set the layer break correctly when burning ripped DVD files? If it doesn't like I remember reading here before, then Nero 6 will not support DL burning in this instance.

In the future, kindly reply to my entire message rather than the small portion that you feel needs to be corrected.

[r0lZ]

Nero 6 claims to support DL burning, but it doesn't respect the IFOs, and can even, in some cases, place the LB at a totally illegal position. Even if you burn an ISO prepared by another program, it is unable to place the LB at the position defined by the seamless joint. Therefore, IMO, saying that it supports LB burning is, at least, an exaggeration!

[no1habfanatic]

Try downloading the nero 7 trial, works great at burning DL discs or single layer discs as long as your burner supports it,if the disc your are burning is 8 gigs, why are you using dvd shrink anyway,unless you used shrink to capture parts of a disc and are rebuilding it, then use nero vision to make your dvd before you burn it. If you are just copying a regular dvd so that you get everything,then use dvdfabdecrypter to decrypt and burn using nero,simple. P.S. remember that if you use a DL disc you may notice a slight hang up or jerk in the picture as it plays,when it switches from 1 layer 2 the next(around the 1 hour mark of the video,if it happens).

[r0lZ]

The slight pause is exactly the problem with Nero (all versions!) It can't handle the layer break properly.

[setarip_old]

@r0lZ

Your opinion regarding NERO Burning ROM has been clearly stated in many posts but, gimme a break! (Pun intended). A DVD exhibiting a slight pause at the layer break is not a NERO-only situation.
I'd suggest you read the back of box of commercial, pressed DVD releases by Disney and Disney-related labels (as well as some others) that state, "A minor delay may be noted as your player changes layers"...

[r0lZ]

That's right, but the layer break should be placed at a position where is is not noticeable, or at least less noticeable. As Nero forces it at the position that you cannot control, it places it usually at a very wrong position, even sometimes in the middle of a shot. If you want to hide the layer break, you cannot use Nero. That's all.

Nero 6 was also well known to create coasters with totally wrong layer break.

Since the same questions about Nero coasters or layer break problems are often asked here, I don't see why I should hide the truth: most of the time, Nero cannot burn properly DL DVDs. Furthermore, it is expensive. I really things the posters must know that there are better (free) tools.

[setarip_old]

I really things the posters must know that there are better (free) tools.Absolutely! - but I believe your statement that, "The slight pause is exactly the problem with Nero (all versions!)" is misleading, as we both know (as do many others) that a slight pause at the layer break is quite commonplace in the playback of both pressed, commercial DVDs and burned DVDs - so that this particular aspect is not a flaw in NERO.

What's somewhat humorous about your posting is that it was in response to a post by "no1habfanatic" who stated that he/she has successfully created D/L DVDs using NERO...

[jinjin_jp]

I agree that Nero is not reliable. I tested before like
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=851894#post851894