DVD+R better than DVD-R?

[bkorn]

ok, I AM a newbie and don't have much burning experience. But I know for a fact that 100% of the DVD-Rs I tried to create on my Panasonic DVD burner were problematic. (They had CRC file corruption on them, as identified by CDCheck program and as evidenced by the fact that many would not play for long on a PC, if at all. Some would not even play for long on a desktop player without skipping or freezing. And my mother-in-law, who has another model of the Panasonic had the exact same problem. After switching to DVD+R, however, all my problems vanished.

So, it's probably just an idiosyncrasy of the Panasonic DVD burners..right?
Well, that makes sense. But whenever I search this forum, and happen upon a thread about a DVD not playing somewhere or having problematic burns, or some other problem, the DVD in question always seems to be a DVD-R. I never seem to see the same kind of problems in the forum regarding DVD+Rs.

But being a newbie, perhaps my search was not comprehensive enough to make such generalizations. Still..if anybody asks ME what DVD format they should use, I will always say "in my opinion" DVD+R is the way to go!)

Bruce

[Fluffbutt]

After reading somewhere that "+r has a superior wobble groove correction factor" (yeah, sounds like bollocks to me too) I tried a 10 pack of Benq 16x (burnt at 8), and have had ZERO pauses (I usually get pauses of 1/10 to 1 second without any scene change like an error gives, on -r).

I'm staying with +r's here!

[mudda_t]

ok, I AM a newbie and don't have much burning experience...

...But being a newbie, perhaps my search was not comprehensive enough to make such generalizations...

You somewhat answered your own question....the topic of dvd+r and dvd-r has been covered and discussed here numerous times.
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There are so many different variables to consider, Media BRAND, burn speed, hardware, etc, etc, etc.
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My own experiance (including friends and family) leads me to lean towards -r because I believe it's more compatible with old and new standalones.

[Bodysurf]

The first thing to remember is that the quality of the recordable DVD media is more important than they type of media (i.e., whether you use DVD+R or DVD-R). IOW, if you use crappy DVD-R media but quality DVD+R media, then your experience makes sense.

A few years ago, DVD-R was unquestionably (except in the minds of the DVD+RW alliance) superior to DVD+R. It had much higher compatibility with standalone players, PC DVD-ROM drives, and stored a few more MBs per blank. Also, the quality of the blanks was much greater.

As time went on, and DVD+R became more popular, more and more new standalone and PC DVD-ROM drives started supporting it. Additionally, high quality DVD+R blanks started being released.

We move forward to 02/2006 and there is really little compatibility or quality differences between the two if you use high-quality blanks. On most modern standalone and PC DVD-ROM drives, they play DVD+R and DVD-R blanks alike equally well. Exceptions to this certainly still exist, but they are much, much rarer than they were in 2003.

As I said, today, if your player supports both DVD-R and DVD+R, the most important thing is to choose high-quality blanks. The companies that make the highest quality DVD blanks today IMHO are Verbatim MCC, Taiyo-Yuden, and Maxell.

NoMoreCoasters.COM (http://www.nomorecoasters.com) has a good idea of the relative quality level of the blanks and a good discussion on the subject.

One final note: I was talking about recordable DVD media, not rewritable DVD media. In the case of rewritable DVD media, DVD+RW is much better than DVD-RW.

[Teegedeck]

In a recent test of 16x recorders, the German PC magazine c't found that recorders seem to have less problems burning DVD-R media at high speed than burning DVD+R media. DVD-R media suffer less from jitter.

[johnhamler1]

I think it has to do with the reflective layer.
I got 2 bundles of same disc, one bundle was much better than the other one. burned all dvd in same condition, same PC, same burner, same speed.
maybe the temperature of the stockage can destroy partially the discs( or the humidity).
I have not seen any difference with +r or -r.

[bkorn]

The first thing to remember is that the quality of the recordable DVD media is more important than they type of media (i.e., whether you use DVD+R or DVD-R). IOW, if you use crappy DVD-R media but quality DVD+R media, then your experience makes sense.


Just for the record of this discussion, the DVD-Rs that would not burn
correctly were TDKs from Costco (made in India..per the label. The kind that has white on one side to allow you to write on them).
I also tried a silver TDK DVD-R that my mother-in-law gave me (I think this one came from Taiwan) and it too was problematic.

Then I tired my first DVD+R (Fuji ..Taiwan).
No problem. Then a 30 pack of Sony DVD+R (Taiwan). Of the 4 that I've burned, no problems.

Maybe there is no difference in the two types of media for most hardware.
But in my experience (and in mother-in-laws experience) only DVD+Rs are gonna work well in a Panasonic burner.

bk

[setarip_old]

@bkorn

To possibly make a more valid comparison, you might want to also try burning a Fuji DVD-R and a SONY DVD-R and a TDK DVD+R (Hopefully, they'll be of the same Manufacturer's ID as the Fuji DVD+R and a SONY DVD+R and a TDK DVD-R that you've already tried burning).