Editing VOB's

[aecdesign]

I'm so new that GOD hasn't taken the slime off me yet. Here is my situation, I ripped a dvd so that I could put back some outtakes of the movie. The decrypting went fine with no problems, but I am now wondering how do I edit the vob file and the audio to put back in the directors cut. Can anyone please guide me in my endevor?
TIA
Nick

[blutach]

This is a cutting and inserting technique. There are a few things around, but possibly the easiest, quickest and one-clickest is DVD Remake Pro (http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/index.php). It is commercial though (US$50)

You can also try DVD Shrink in re-author mode. http://www.dvdshrink.info/compilation.php

Regards

[aecdesign]

I've got DVD Shrink, but I guess I don't really know how to use it. I'm looking for a way to view the video, step by frame, split it at the exact position, and splice in the outtakes of the movie. Am I wanting to muck? Does DVD Shrink do this, if so how? I've got he trial version of Video Redo, does this do what I want?
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Reguards
Nick

[setarip_old]

I've got DVD Shrink, but I guess I don't really know how to use it. I'm looking for a way to view the video, step by frame, split it at the exact position, and splice in the outtakes of the movie.I guess you didn't click on this link, already provided to you by "bultach":

http://www.dvdshrink.info/compilation.php

[CWR03]

In order to view and edit it "step by frame," you'll first need to convert it to an uncompressed AVI since editing MPEG-2 mostly only allows cutting at I-frames. Once you've converted it (most recommendations suggest HuffYUV) you'll be able to edit it with virtually any software designed for that purpose.

[aecdesign]

Where do I get "HuffYUV"? Will it be able to acess the vob files or do i need to convert them?

[ammck55]

A search (http://www.google.com/search?q=HuffYUV&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official) would be a good place to start. ;)

Read the documentation on any of those pages and you'll learn how to use the tool. Get stuck, post back.

ammck55

[CWR03]

HuffYUV is a codec, and searching here or with Google will find it for you. As far as conversion, it depends on the program. A VOB is basically an MPEG-2, and most programs that can open one can work with both.

[blutach]

IMO, cutting at an I-frame is not such a big deal - we are talking of, at most, 0.4 seconds differential, and most times, the deleted scenes you wanna put back will naturally fit after a cell.

Up to you, of course

Regards

[CWR03]

Good point, blutach - if that would work out for aecdesign, then Cuttermaran is an excellent editing tool.

[aecdesign]

Darn, this is all greek to me, let's talk Architecture and I'll give you a run for your money.

[blutach]

@aecdesign

Both seatrip and I have given you a guide using the very popular free software, DVD Shrink. Now, this will go some of the way to doing what you want (there will be pauses at each insert) but this can be remedied. If you decide to use this method, I will give you a guide to fixing the pauses.

I have also suggested DVD Remake Pro (which, rather unfortunately, does not have a fully functional trial version). This prog will enable you to do all your inserts in one go and is the easiest solution IMO. However, you will need to weigh up the cost/benefit equation.

There are other, more advanced techniques using progs like PgcEdit and VobBlanker, but I sense these are not what you are searching for.

Good luck!

Regards

[jel]

O/T
... let's talk Architecture and I'll give you a run for your money.alright, your on! :p

[blutach]

Also OT: BWAHAHAHAHAA Jel. Of course!!! Hope you are well mate.

Regards

[CWR03]

aecdesign, MPEG-2 files have keyframes, the main ones known as I-frames. Simple editing can only be done at I-frames, which I believe is every 13 frames. This means that in order to cut at a specific frame, you must convert to something better for editing. If cutting in at I-frames is close enough for your material, Cuttermaran will make quick work of it because it won't have to re-render.

[blutach]

12 frames for NTSC, 10 for PAL.

Regards

[aecdesign]

OK O/T what you want to talk about, the complexity of CAD BIM vs regular
2D or 3D drafting?

[jel]

@ blutach

doing well thanks mate. managed to survive the silly season, now i am back trying to re-work the arse-grooves in my office chair after a nice extended break.

@ aecdesign

as much as i would like to continue this O/T discourse, this is not really an appropriate venue for discussing CAD usage etc (besides i have been using archicad (http://www.graphisoft.com/products/archicad/) for the last 7 + years, so its a moot topic :D )

now back to your question. have you tried blutach's suggestion of using shrink? as noted there are many other methods avaliable to you, however, by far the quickest to grasp approach would be to start with shrink, or if you have the money, dvd remake pro.

good luck
j

[aecdesign]

I really can't figure out how to use them. I got HuffYUV and VirtualDub, but I haven't figured out how to convert the file to AVI. I also have the use of DVD Remake Pro. But I want to figure out hoe to use HuffYUV, it's got my curiosity up, I started VirtualDub but can't figure out how to use them in conjunction with each other to create an avi file. All I see is the ability to play an avi file, so I must be missing something.

[CWR03]

Once you've donwloaded and installed HuffYUV, you should be able to use it with most programs that can open MPEG-2 and allow you to choose a codec. I use AimONE Video Converter (not Freeware) which is very simple to use - with it I can convert almost any file type (except QuickTime) to almost any file type (except QuickTime).

[aecdesign]

OK, went and got DVD Remake Pro. I was able to cut scenes, but I can't seem to save the file with the cut scenes. Also, how do you put outtakes in? The manual doesn't cover that.

[blutach]

The process is similar to this guide on dimad's site - http://www.dimadsoft.com/dvdremakepro/extra_guide_insert_disk_2.php

Regards

[aecdesign]

Hey guys, I'm sorry for the cross post. I thought I was asking something specific about DVD Remake Pro. Again I'm sorry and it won't happen again, K
Nick

[dwallersv]

There are other, more advanced techniques using progs like PgcEdit and VobBlanker, but I sense these are not what you are searching for.I'm interested in these techniques, and would appreciate some coaching or a pointer to some place it's already covered (couldn't come up with a good enough search term to cull the site down enough).

I know how to edit a PGC and add in a new cell, which would work fine if the material was all on cell boundaries. However, if it is not, is there some way to split a cell with any of these tools? I suspect not...

[MaximRecoil]

aecdesign, MPEG-2 files have keyframes, the main ones known as I-frames. Simple editing can only be done at I-frames, which I believe is every 13 frames. This means that in order to cut at a specific frame, you must convert to something better for editing. If cutting in at I-frames is close enough for your material, Cuttermaran will make quick work of it because it won't have to re-render.
There are programs such as TMPGEnc MPEG Editor (http://www.pegasys-inc.com/en/product/tme.html) and VideoRedo that can cut on any frame in an MPEG2 file, not just I-frames. They manage to do this by direct stream copying everything save for a few frames before and after the cut(s). For that area, it re-encodes, adding in an I-frame as necessary. TMPGEnc MPEG Editor calls this function "Smart Rendering", and it works quite well:
Includes the long-awaited Smart Rendering function, enabling fast cut-editing at frame level!