Can I pasue it?

[Xirtam G]

I'm half way through an encode with cce, is there anyway I can get it to pause at the end of the current segment it's doing and contuine it later? I need the pc for something uregently.

[jdobbs]

Yes. Just stop by pushing the "Abort" button. In order to start where you left off:

1. Change to 3 click mode by deselecting "One Click" under the mode menu.
2. Push the "Rebuild" button.
3. When asked, say "Yes" to "continue last encode" dialog.

[Xirtam G]

Ah fantastic thanks :)

[apfraats]

Two things to mention:

1) Running DVD-RB in low priority let's you use youre PC for other tasks without problems, that's what I always do, and works fine.

2) JDOBBS is right, but I recommend NOT ABORTING the current CCE job.

This won't happen using ABORT within DVD-RB, but pressing cancel in CCE can get you into problems.

DVD-RB restarts with the segment where there is no M2V existing.
If you run CCE at 5 pass CCE setting and you abort CCE in the 2-cond pass, there is a M2V existing, even incompletely, and you WILL get an error in REBUILD.

Not to mention not all passes of CCE are done....

[random asshat]

I have to agree with pt. 1 of what apfraats is saying, make a .bat file
that has something like:


start /low rebuilder.exe


.. and start RB that way, all the child processes like CCE will
launch in lower prioirty, so the machine is still completely useable
while DVD-RB/CCE is running.

[jdobbs]

Two things to mention:

1) Running DVD-RB in low priority let's you use youre PC for other tasks without problems, that's what I always do, and works fine.

2) JDOBBS is right, but I recommend NOT ABORTING the current CCE job.

This won't happen using ABORT within DVD-RB, but pressing cancel in CCE can get you into problems.

DVD-RB restarts with the segment where there is no M2V existing.
If you run CCE at 5 pass CCE setting and you abort CCE in the 2-cond pass, there is a M2V existing, even incompletely, and you WILL get an error in REBUILD.

Not to mention not all passes of CCE are done....That is completely incorrect. It doesn't start where an M2V is missing. There is an indicator in the REBUILDER.INF file that tells DVD-RB which files have been completed. If you run in 5 pass mode (God only knows why anyone runs in 5 pass mode) it will start at the next job that wasn't completed -- regardless of the M2V files.

[Xirtam G]

Whats wrong with 5 passes?

[jdobbs]

The quality increase of a pass is exponentially less effective than the previous. In most cases two passes will give you a result that it indistinguishable from 10 passes.

The CCE manual used to clearly state that anything over 4 shows no quality increase at all -- but they removed it (multiple passes is one thing that makes CCE different from other encoders -- in my opinion it is more of a "sales strategy" than a feature).

My recommendation is 2 passes for most material and 3 passes for exceptionally challenging sources. When an encoder has performed it's first pass it has seen the entire input stream and should have all the information it needs to allocate bits for the second pass. That's why virtually every other encoder in the world only does two passes for VBR.

Of course there are those who will argue in the other direction... and if you really don't care how long it takes it won't hurt anything... to each his/her own.

[Rippraff]

That is completely incorrect. It doesn't start where an M2V is missing. There is an indicator in the REBUILDER.INF file that tells DVD-RB which files have been completed. If you run in 5 pass mode (God only knows why anyone runs in 5 pass mode) it will start at the next job that wasn't completed -- regardless of the M2V files.
You are talking about different things. ;)
Yours is related to abort within RB, apfraats ist talking about abort within CCE and in this case he is right, RB will increase the progress number by one and will start with the next segment (regardless if it's finished or not).
Unfortunately CCE SP 2.70 can't be minimized so the CCE window is always in front and users might click on this "Cancel" button instead of the one in RB.

Cu Rippraff

[jdobbs]

DVD-RB restarts with the segment where there is no M2V existing. This was the statement to which I was referring. It is not correct. If you follow the directions I gave in the post -- it will work correctly every time.

[apfraats]

Sorry JDOBBS, but in the past I noticed this happening aborting CCE and DVD-RB was just continuing with the NEXT segment as stated in the status window. The prvious segment was NOT done completely.

But you might have changed the way it works in newer versions, I don't know.

I'm pretty sure I have seen this happening before, and that was causing me to restart encode all over again.

But maybe it al was just a bad dream.... :o

[apfraats]

Sorry JDOBBS I've just tested it with the new 1.06 PRO.

If you cancel encoding in the 3 pass, DVD-RB will go to the next segment and NOT RESTART THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT'S NOT FINISEHD !!

Even stppoing CCE in the second pass leaves an INCOMPLETE M2V !!


Sorry to say...

[jdobbs]

As I said -- you are supposed to Abort with DVD-RB, not push CANCEL in CCE. My point stands.

If you do it correctly it will absolutely work. This is like the "extra files in the source directory" argument. If you try to screw it up -- of course you can.

[Rippraff]

@apfraats

And I thought I had made this point clear as well. :rolleyes:

Cu Rippraff

[Fishman0919]

Sorry JDOBBS I've just tested it with the new 1.06 PRO.

If you cancel encoding in the 3 pass, DVD-RB will go to the next segment and NOT RESTART THE PREVIOUS ONE THAT'S NOT FINISEHD !!

Even stppoing CCE in the second pass leaves an INCOMPLETE M2V !!


Sorry to say...


Yes, if you cancel encoding with CCE... you are telling DVD-RB that that segment is done and it will move on to the next... you don't cancel with CCE... you abort with DVD-RB

[apfraats]

<this was not well thought over, sorry not thinking>

And for the source directory topic, it is of importance having ripped a dvd WITH A DUMMY VOB, that shouldn't be there in the first place and that happens......
Or use PGCEDIT and the backup directory is left.

What if someone accidentally rippes two different DVD's to the same directory ????

You consider that 'TRYING' to mess up, I consider it a user error and software should be as much protected agianst it as is possible.

[winny]

If a user rips two disks to one folder and ignores the prompt to overwrite existing files, I wouldn't expect rebuilder to sort the mess out.

[apfraats]

No try our beloved DVDSHRINK........

It is just folowwing the logicall structure from the starting IFO's....

It even reports unreferenced material that is needlessly taking up space...

[winny]

I want rebuilder to take a trusted source and give me a reliable end result, which it currently does wonderfully. It shouldn't have to tidy up crap files left over from a user error.

Ensuring you have a clean rip to start with shouldn't be too taxing even for the novice, the rip tools do a great job of warning you of potential problems, eg. this file already exists, do you want to create a mess by randomly adding some more?

[winny]

Anyway, I realise this is now well off topic as Apfraats source file problem has been raised elsewhere.

@Xirtam G. Glad you got it sorted.