View Full Version : Why not put up a Wiki for ready-to-use AviSynth Scripts?
freezer
10th January 2006, 00:51
I have been reading this forum for a long time, always searching for new high quality filters for my video processing (I am in independet movie making).
There have have been a lot of useful filters I got from all those talented scripters out there in the world like didée, leak, scharfi's brain to name a few.
But there is one nasty thing: often you have to skip trough several pages and endless lines of text, searching for the latest version of the script and of the necessary other plugins and so on.
This is very timeconsuming and hard for newbies.
So my suggestion is: put all those filter scripts into a wiki, which can easily managed and kept up-to-date by anyone who wants.
This should keep newbie questions to a minimum.
What do you think?
Zarxrax
10th January 2006, 01:01
Thats a great idea! I also hate having to search endlessly for hours through the forums trying to find some obscure script. One thing I would worry about it being a wiki though, is that you probably wouldn't want just anyone making all sorts of changes to the scripts. I think there would need to be some way for only the script creator to modify it.
foxyshadis
10th January 2006, 01:30
.... You mean like www.avisynth.org? Check out "Shared Functions". It could stand to have newer ones added, and better organization, but it's got a lot there already.
I'll accept that it could use a reorganization, which will probably come with the move to the new wiki format. Especially if I can get time to plan out some things and discuss them with the others. In particular, I'd like to merge the scripts and filters sections someday, which I imagine will make it much easier for people to find what they need there.
Richard Berg
10th January 2006, 03:26
Freezer: there is a lot of work to be done by Avisynth document writers/maintainers. Getting common AVSI scripts better organized is certainly an important part. Check this thread for next-gen efforts: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105205
In the meantime, feel free to add to the main avisynth.org wiki, and post suggestions on how we can better coordinate our efforts.
freezer
10th January 2006, 13:53
That is great - I hadn't realized that there are already some things on the way - sorry for not using the search function before.
Wouldn't it make sense to make your Wiki topic sticky, because it will get much more attention that way?
Richard Berg
10th January 2006, 19:22
You'd have to ask Wilbert. He's in charge of documentation, and he's also the mod for this forum (I'm only in AVS Dev).
Wilbert
10th January 2006, 21:53
I made it sticky it for now. It would be nice if more people respond :)
Richard Berg
10th January 2006, 23:03
Anything else I can do to help? I'll finish my regex for converting between the wiki markup syntaxes, but they're already very similar so I doubt that's a big obstacle.
foxyshadis & stickboy both seem to have some good ideas about organization -- anything we need to discuss, or is it just a matter of finding time?
Wilbert -- can you edit the title of the sticky to ask for volunteers? Also, it would probably help if a few of the old stickies (e.g. YV12 FAQ) were de-stickied to make room. Others (e.g. List of Command-Line Tools) are good but would be even better if they were on mediawiki :)
Pookie
11th January 2006, 05:15
Just a few suggestions as far as script presentation is concerned - I hope this was an open thread - apologies if it wasn't.
-Script Introduction-
Name of Script
Type of Function - Denoiser/Sharpener/Deinterlacer/IVTCer/Other
To use on - DV / Mpeg2 / AVI / All / Other
Works on - NTSC / PAL / Both / n/a
3rd Party Plugins Needed - Masktools >v1.5x / Undot/ Decomb/ etc
Example Line of How it is invoked in the main AVS file -
mcnr_simple2(frames=3,thY=24,thC=20,thY2=-1,thC2=-1,removdirt=false,LPrad=2.0,LPlosens=1,LPhisens=5)
Benefits of Doing Something Like This - It will cut down the number of basic questions in related threads, like "My script says, 'Can't find ...' ", or "I have the function loaded. What do I do now ?" :)
foxyshadis
11th January 2006, 06:44
Actually filters already have a format like that, which you'll find in the main avisynth documentation. It's basically:
Name
Abstract
author:
version:
download:
category:
requirements: (colorspace, video format, avisynth version, etc)
license:
Description
...
Syntax
Filter(clip, int "blah", int "foo")
PARAMETERS
Blah: (0 to 10, default 2) .....
Examples
Notes
Changes
etc.
Everyone has minor variations on this, this is mostly based on one of tritical's, but it's helped keep the documentation consistent and very easy to quickly decipher. Some are more curt and not so fleshed out, of course. Only thing is it doesn't appear that these are currently in the wiki, which kind of surprised me when I went to look.
Wilbert
11th January 2006, 21:13
@Richard,
Wilbert -- can you edit the title of the sticky to ask for volunteers?
Ok, done. I also added something to your post about this.
Also, it would probably help if a few of the old stickies (e.g. YV12 FAQ) were de-stickied to make room. Others (e.g. List of Command-Line Tools) are good but would be even better if they were on mediawiki
I think the YV12 sticky is very useful for (new) people and should stay there. The CL stuff should be moved to avisynth.org (to the faq or somewhere else).
@foxyshadis,
Everyone has minor variations on this, this is mostly based on one of tritical's, but it's helped keep the documentation consistent and very easy to quickly decipher. Some are more curt and not so fleshed out, of course. Only thing is it doesn't appear that these are currently in the wiki, which kind of surprised me when I went to look.
Time :) Of course it would be nice if that stuff can also be found of avisynth.org. But the problem is that there's always stuff to document and to do, and much of it has higher priority than this.
I hope you didn't forget about finishing this vfr stuff on avisynth.org :) After that we can start to port stuff to mediawiki as far as i'm concerned.
foxyshadis
12th January 2006, 02:08
Eep. Of course I hadn't forgotten, I just put it on the backburner because I haven't had much chance to test. I'll hurry up, sorry about that.
You're right about there always being more to do, certainly. I'm not sure how you manage sometimes!
Wilbert
12th January 2006, 22:04
Please continue discussion in this thread:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=105205
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