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qthesnake
4th December 2001, 14:58
Hey People:

when i watch DVD movies in my Toshiba 29" TV i see it in the correct AR, but i am missing about a half a inch on each side... i see that part when i watch it in my computer screen.... i am using the S-video cable and both HW+ and the tv are set on pal (i tested everything: NTSC and PAL60, and even tried wide, letterbox, and pan&scan.. i also tried to change the "border settings" in the "DVD station" progrem, and that didn't help either)

this happens to all widescreen movies... and it happend on another 29" toshiba model too!
any idea?

thanx!
Q.

dZeus
4th December 2001, 17:47
welcome to the wonders of the tv-world, this one called overscan :)

qthesnake
6th December 2001, 09:06
now we know what the problem is, thanx!

does anybody has a solution to this problem?

Snike42
8th December 2001, 02:28
adjust your TV!

This might be more difficult than it sounds. On older tv's you only needed a screwdriver and play arround inside your tv. But nowadays it's all digital and the old screwdriver is useless... But if you're lucky you only need the remote control instead of a screwdriver!

I have a Sony tv and if I press some special keys on the remote, I end up in a 'service mode'. In here you can adjust all the settings that you're not supposed to thouch. So be carefull, you can end up screwing it up instead of getting a better picture!

Here's some explaining on how to enter the service mode on some major brands: http://members.accessus.net/~090/awh/how2adj.html#5

Snike

dZeus
17th December 2001, 23:27
don't change _anything_ !!

if you bothered to look up 'overscan' in google or anything you would have noticed that this is a phenomenon that's supposed to happen! All video content for use on TV is made with overscan in mind (practically all video content).

The only problem I can see are some subtitles who are too dumb to stick to overscan specifications and put the subs in the overscan area... if you come across those people just hit them very hard on the head and tell them to stick to overscan specifications :D

qthesnake
19th December 2001, 18:40
thanx for you reply:

yes, a lot (about 25%) of the dvds i have are premade to overwork this problem... they actually have "black bars" on the sides of the picture... but:

i was talking about items, or part of a movie that exists: i see it on my coputer screen but not on the tv... one could miss some important info like that....

dZeus
21st December 2001, 14:21
maybe I wasn't clear enough:
no real DVDs should contain black borders the size of overscan (~6-8%). Some video content is _MEANT_ to fall outside the visible area of the TV. If there's important stuff in the area that falls outside the screen, then the DVD is faulty (as in someone didn't stick to overscan specifications along the process of making the DVD). Your TV is _NOT_ faulty, nor the TV-out or whatever you're using to play back DVDs on your TV.

Ceronian
21st December 2001, 16:29
http://www.tvtool.de/english/faq_e.htm#faq8
Check this out. Its a good explanation of overscan.

qthesnake
22nd December 2001, 16:34
1. some DVDs A R E "over scan" ready and have black bars at the sides.

2. i don't think that when Stanley Kubrick shot "2001: A Space Adyssey" in 68 he made it ready for overscan... i think i might miss some emportant elements and that pisses me off! does anybody has a software solution for this? IE: a program that will add the black bars to the video and recalculate the corect AR?

anybody?

i need solutions, not excuses! ;-)

thanx for your replys anyway!