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KingYes
29th December 2005, 02:35
hey..
how is use virtualdub server with Gordian Knot software?
what is writer in script?
thanks.. :)
manono
29th December 2005, 07:08
Hello and welcome to the forum-
I apologize if I don't understand you correctly. GKnot uses VDubMod and not VDub. It frameserves into VDubMod using an AviSynth script file, called an .avs, which GKnot creates for you. You'll have to install, among other things, AviSynth, which comes with the GKnot RipPack. Here's a link to the guides. Choose the codec (XviD, DivX, etc.), click on it and next you'll see the GKnot guide for that codec:
http://www.doom9.org/divx-encoding.htm
Come back if you need more help, or if I've misunderstood your question.
KingYes
29th December 2005, 13:42
Hello and welcome to the forum-
I apologize if I don't understand you correctly. GKnot uses VDubMod and not VDub. It frameserves into VDubMod using an AviSynth script file, called an .avs, which GKnot creates for you. You'll have to install, among other things, AviSynth, which comes with the GKnot RipPack. Here's a link to the guides. Choose the codec (XviD, DivX, etc.), click on it and next you'll see the GKnot guide for that codec:
http://www.doom9.org/divx-encoding.htm
Come back if you need more help, or if I've misunderstood your question.
Hey.
i want to user by "Start frame server.." in virtualdub, without knot virtualdubmod of GKnot..
tnx.. :)
KingYes
29th December 2005, 13:59
sorry..
here image: http://www.rar.co.il/files/eMule-1135864924.gif
sillKotscha
29th December 2005, 14:49
Hey.
i want to user by "Start frame server.." in virtualdub, without knot virtualdubmod of GKnot..
tnx.. :)
13) The official language is English. Outside the translator forum English is the only allowed language. (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm)
:)
and btw, avisynth is used for frameserving as manono said...
manono
29th December 2005, 14:55
Hi-
Then what you want to know has nothing to do with GKnot, as frameserving with VDub doesn't use an AviSynth script file, but a VFAPI. It's also slow, obsolete and produces inferior results compared to frameserving with an .avs. I stopped frameserving out of VDub 5 years ago.
Why do you want to use the VDub frameserver? Do you want to encode to MPEG-2 or something like that? If so, using an AviSynth script file is better. Just save the one that GKnot makes for you.
And if I've said something wrong or stupid, I hope someone will correct me. Like I said, it's been a long time since I've frameserved with VDub.
KingYes
12th January 2006, 23:00
Hmm..
This is msg error when to click "Open AVI", within Gordian Knot ( http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6131/avi0ox.png ).
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/6016/avi8pa.png
Thanks. :)
manono
12th January 2006, 23:40
Hi-
What kind of an AVI is it? If you're not sure, then open it in GSpot to be sure. Depending on what it is, you may have to install a codec for it. GSpot may tell you what you need for it. Try and open it in VDubMod, and if it can't open it in either, then it will give you some kind of an error message.
KingYes
13th January 2006, 10:50
Hmmm.. sorry..
I'm bad a english..
I want to encoder movie AVI to AVI with subtitle+new resize.
I'm love to plugins of VDub (Resize, TextSub).
Is it possible to used with this plugins?
Thanks a lot !
manono
13th January 2006, 11:46
It's not possible to use Virtual Dub filters in GKnot. AviSynth also has resizers and the textsub plugin that GKnot will use. First you'll have to be able to open your AVI in GKnot. It could be that if it doesn't open in GKnot, it won't open in VDub either.
Maybe you have a friend that speaks better English that can help you to understand and to write. Maybe if you tell us your mother language someone here can contact you by PM in your own language and can help you better. Here the only language used is English.
KingYes
13th January 2006, 11:52
Thanks. :)
How i to used at plugin "resize" by GKnot, like of VDub?
BTW, I'm to know a little English, and i could have to used in forum..
manono
13th January 2006, 12:35
Well, first you have to be able to open the AVI in GKnot. Then you crop and resize in the Resolution Tab, and when you go to Save And Encode, those resizing changes will be saved in the AviSynth script file. At that time you can also do other filtering, including adding your subtitles to the resized AVI.
KingYes
13th January 2006, 12:47
Thanks manono !
The resized orginal (example, 672X272). How i to change this resized to 672X372, and save brim black that subtitle on this brim?
thanke a lot.
manono
13th January 2006, 14:47
OK, now I understand. You want to add black below the video and put the subtitles in there. For some reason mine doesn't allow the textsub filter, but if yours is the same way, you can edit it easily. I'm going to remove the commented out lines from the Save And Encode script GKnot makes (the lines with "#" in front) because they don't do anything. Here's the basic script:
LoadPlugin("C:\DIVXST~1\GORDIA~1\DGMPGDec\DGDecode.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\DIVXST~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\UnDot.dll")
LoadPlugin("F:\DIVXST~1\GORDIA~1\AviSynthPlugins\VSFilter.dll")
avisource("E:\Movies\Incident At Blood Pass.avi")
crop(0,0,640,272)
Undot()
LanczosResize(640,272)
#AddBorders(left,top,right,bottom)
VobSub("E:\Movies\Texas")
Remove the DGDecode.dll, as it's not needed for an AVI. Remove the crop, as you're not cropping anything. Remove the resize because you're not resizing the movie, you're just adding black. And we're going to change the VobSub line to TextSub. Maybe yours already has the textsub line, but I can't make it show up in mine. If you want to remove the Undot.dll and Undot() from the script, that's up to you. It does some light filtering. We'll also use that AddBorders by removing the "#" and adding black at the bottom. That will leave us with:
LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\VSFilter.dll")#Change for your path to the VSFilter.dll
avisource("C:\Path\To\Movie.avi")#change for your path and your movie name
AddBorders(0,0,0,96)
TextSub("C:\Path\To\Movie.srt")#change for your path and subs name and sub format if different, like ssa
I think that will do it. You should add black in multiples of 16. That's why I changed it from the 100 pixels you requested. If 96 isn't enough, then change it to 112. Test the script in VDubMod before encoding to make sure it opens, and that the subs look OK. Then you can go back to the Encoder Tab of GKnot and encode, or you can encode directly in VDubMod to whichever codec you want. With an AviSynth script you can use Fast Recompress (Video->Fast Recompress) and the encoding will be much faster and the quality a little bit better then using the VDub Filters and Full Processing. Good luck.
BigDid
13th January 2006, 20:52
Hip hip hip for Manono, before I go fishing ;)
:goodpost:
Best wishes for this new year, keep the good work.
Ia O Ra Na I te Matahiti api, Aloha Mahalo
Didier
KingYes
14th January 2006, 22:38
Manono, Thanks al lot to guide small, but i no to understand a little..
Is it impossible to change manual from resized (672X272) to 672X372, without used at AddBorders?
manono
15th January 2006, 04:21
Yes, you can edit the resize to anything you want. Changing from 640x272 to 640x372 will stretch the video vertically, make everyone look tall and thin, and give your AVI a bad Aspect Ratio. It won't add space at the bottom for the subs to be in the black. Try it and see. Just edit the .avs like this:
LoadPlugin("C:\Path\To\VSFilter.dll")#Change for your path to the VSFilter.dll
avisource("C:\Path\To\Movie.avi")#change for your path and your movie name
LanczosResize(640,372)
#AddBorders(0,0,0,96)
TextSub("C:\Path\To\Movie.srt")#change for your path and subs name and sub format if different, like ssa
and then open it in VDubMod. You'll see what I mean.
KingYes
16th January 2006, 23:10
OK, Thanks you. I to arrange oneself et new resize, but dont know used at TextSub (direction subtitle, size font, selected font, location on black below the video).
Thanks..
manono
16th January 2006, 23:48
That's why I don't use SRT subs. Either there is no way, or I don't know the way. Maybe Subtitle Workshop can do it. It is, however, an easy thing to do if the subs are in SSA format. You open them in SubStation Alpha where you can set the styles. You can adjust the font, font size, font color, positioning, etc, quite easily. You can find Substation Alpha here:
http://www.videohelp.com/tools?tool=Sub_Station_Alpha
Any more questions like this and off you go to the Subtitles Forum. :)
KingYes
16th January 2006, 23:57
Manono, i love you !!
Thanks you very much !!!
KingYes
17th January 2006, 00:09
BTW, impossible to location on black below the video.. :(
manono
17th January 2006, 06:10
Gee, and just a while ago you loved me.
Are you saying you can't get the subs into the black below the video? Then you're doing something wrong, as it's pretty easy:
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6392/incident9vg.th.jpg (http://img15.imageshack.us/my.php?image=incident9vg.jpg)
I started with a 640x272 AVI and added 48 pixels of black to the bottom of the AVI, making it 640x320, and positioned the subs to be in the black. Did you make sure to have the textsub line after the addborders command? And did you reposition the subs to lower them?
KingYes
17th January 2006, 21:52
Hey..
By VDub I use:
http://www.kingyes.ixolo.com/Image_For_Guide/9.gif
Possible too Gordian Knot?
manono
17th January 2006, 23:24
Don't ever use Nearest Neighbor resizing. Yes, as I said before, just edit the resize in GKnot to whatever you want. I can't read that pic as it's too bright in my room at the moment, and it's too dark on my monitor. I'll check again after dark. Unless someone else wants to step in and help.
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