What the hell? (OGG Vorbis 5.1 not happening for me...)

[Skelsgard]

Not a newbie, encoding for a long time...
But now I can´t get BeSweet, using BeSweet Gui, to encode my 6-ch wavs into OGG.
It says that ogg 6-ch only accepts 48 kHz files, when my wavs are already 48kHz.

Not a problem before, why now?

BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
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Using Ogg Vorbis v1.0 dlls (http://www.vorbis.com).

Logging start : 12/27/05 , 20:41:21.

C:\Archivos de programa\Audio\BeSweet\BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.wav -output C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.ogg -logfile C:\Archivos de programa\Audio\BeSweet\BeSweet.log ) -ogg( -q 0.300 -6ch 1 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
Error 68: 6chogg only works with 48khz streams.
Gain & Dynamic Compression should be set against azid.

Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

Logging ends : 12/27/05 , 20:41:21.

No problem playing the wavs, importing them to SoftEncode, or encoding with AACEnc32/Nero Digital/BeSweet GUI to AC3/etc...

[Skelsgard]

So I tried BeLight, guess what?


BeSweet v1.5b31 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using Ogg Vorbis v1.0 dlls (http://www.vorbis.com).

Logging start : 12/27/05 , 20:54:48.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.wav -output C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.ogg -logfile C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1_1.log ) -ogg( -q 0.300 -6ch 1 )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.wav
[00:00:00:000] | Output: C:\Documents and Settings\Athlon XP\Mis documentos\5.1.ogg
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: Yes
Error 68: 6chogg only works with 48khz streams.
Gain & Dynamic Compression should be set against azid.

Quiting...
[00:00:00:000] Conversion Completed !

Logging ends : 12/27/05 , 20:54:48.

[Kurtnoise]

This is a known issue for BeSweet.

[Skelsgard]

Oh, OK.
This is a known issue for BeSweet.
But I remember having encoded OGG multichannel before with BeSweet.

Tried oggenc2. Works perfectly.

Another thing...
My 5.1 .wav with L-R-C-LFE-SL-SR, renders in Winamp perfectly, but with DS filters the channel mapping is incorrect. So to get a 5.1 OGG that will play with proper channel-mapping in DS filters, I have to map the 5.1 WAV as 5.1 AC3-like (instead of .wav L-R-C-LFE-SL-SR, .wav L-C-R-SL-SR-LFE).
What´s up with that?

[tebasuna51]

Another thing...
My 5.1 .wav with L-R-C-LFE-SL-SR, renders in Winamp perfectly, but with DS filters the channel mapping is incorrect. So to get a 5.1 OGG that will play with proper channel-mapping in DS filters, I have to map the 5.1 WAV as 5.1 AC3-like (instead of .wav L-R-C-LFE-SL-SR, .wav L-C-R-SL-SR-LFE).
What´s up with that?
Yes, you need to remap the 5.1 WAV to L-C-R-SL-SR-LFE, before encode with oggenc2.

[Skelsgard]

Yes, you need to remap the 5.1 WAV to L-C-R-SL-SR-LFE, before encode with oggenc2.
But why does it plays with correct mapping in Winamp?

[tebasuna51]

It's true. The same ogg file (encoded with oggenc2, with previous remapping L-C-R-SL-SR-LFE) play fine (and decode to wav6) with Foobar2000 v0.83 and wrong with winamp 5.1 (also wrong decode to wav6). BeLight decode also wrong.

I think we have a conflict between versions. Sorry I'm not a ogg expert. I hope another user can clarify this.

[Skelsgard]

Now it turns out that oggenc2 is giving me OGG files that sound trashed in DS players (and GraphEdit tells me that it can´t find aa renderer for the file when doing manually but creates the render filter sequence when I open the file with "Open with... --> DirectShow SDK Filter Graph Editor").
But played in Winamp sound perfect.
I believe the problem lies within DS filters, and Winamp is playing properly.