Besweet / Nero7 Wav

[Mobbyman]

Hi,

since last week i use nero7 Waveeditor to split DJ mixes (on large Wavfile) into different tracks. Then i save all tracks to different .wav files.

After that I use BESWEET 1.5b31 to convert the WAV files to OGG. But this ends in ERROR 58: BAD FILE INPUT FORMAT!
The original WAV file (the large one) can be convertet to OGG!!

So I had a Look to the header of the different WAV files and the large one. I find out that the headers of the "NERO" generated files are different.

So my question: Is there a tool to change the headers of the "NERO" files??

PS: Sorry for my english, I'm a german boy :) and normally I'm at the german doom9.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I encountered the same problem. Nero 7 seems to produce "strange" (maybe incorrect, but I don't know yet) Wave files...

//EDIT

If I open the Wave-File produced by Nero in Cool Edit, it asks for data-format and sample-rate. Just like RAW PCM. So I first though the RIFF header is missing but. But the Hex-Editor showed me that the header is there and seems identical to the original Wave, which opens normal. Really strange. I don't know enough about the details to solve the problem...

[Mobbyman]

My files have not the same header!

see screenshots attached



[LoRd_MuldeR]

My files have not the same header!

see screenshots attached



Can't see the attachment. Can't you upload those screenshots at imageshack or something?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Okay, there rally seem to be differences in the header :stupid:


That's the original Wave files, which works normal:

http://brhack.net/mulder/foo/misc/wave1.png


And that's the file created by Nero 7:

http://brhack.net/mulder/foo/misc/wave2.png


Anyone knows what the differences mean?

[Mobbyman]

I can't insert a picture and my attachements I can click only if I logged in?!

Did I anything wrong??

[tebasuna51]

Okay, there rally seem to be differences in the header

That's the original Wave files, which works normal:

And that's the file created by Nero 7:

Anyone knows what the differences mean?
Your original wav header is in the classical ('canonical') format and is accepted without problems in all audio software. Is a stereo wav, int16, 44100 Hz.

The file created by Nero 7 may be (fmt: 40) a WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE header but i can't see if is correct (put the image without the RIFF chunk list to see the header data, only needed until next line of 'data' chunk).
Not all audio soft (BeSweet, GoldWave, old CoolEdit, ...) accept this header.

You can use WaveWizard to convert from 'WaveFormatEx' to 'Wave PCM' format.

@Mobbyman
Use 'Quote' in LoRd_MuldeR post to see the method to insert pictures .

[Mobbyman]

YES !!!!! WaveWizard is it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THATS THE TOOL I SEARCHED FOR TO CHANGE HEADERS

THX @ tebasuna51

also THX @ lord_mulder

and the programmer of WaveWizard

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Your original wav header is in the classical ('canonical') format and is accepted without problems in all audio software. Is a stereo wav, int16, 44100 Hz.

The file created by Nero 7 may be (fmt: 40) a WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE header but i can't see if is correct (put the image without the RIFF chunk list to see the header data, only needed until next line of 'data' chunk).
Not all audio soft (BeSweet, GoldWave, old CoolEdit, ...) accept this header.

You can use WaveWizard to convert from 'WaveFormatEx' to 'Wave PCM' format.

Thanks for info.
Is WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE any better ??? Or why should they use it?


Here again the screenshot:

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/8726/wave31ty.gif

[tebasuna51]

Your Nero wav have a correct WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE, two channels wav, int16, 44100 Hz. The duration is 38.9753 sec, the original wav is 2212.4266 sec.

And identify the two channels, with the new header field dwChannelMask, like: FL, FR
Is irrelevant for stereo wav, is intended for multichannel wav's. For instance a 4 channel wav can be: FL, FR, FC, BC (Surround like DPL I) or FL, FR, BL, BR (Quadraphonic) and this field can identify the channels (bits sets to 1) with:

1. Front Left - FL
2. Front Right - FR
3. Front Center - FC
4. Low Frequency – LF
5. Back Left - BL
6. Back Right - BR
7. Front Left of Center - FLC
8. Front Right of Center - FRC
9. Back Center - BC
10. Side Left - SL
11. Side Right - SR
12. Top Center - TC
13. Top Front Left - TFL
14. Top Front Center - TFC
15. Top Front Right - TFR
16. Top Back Left - TBL
17. Top Back Center - TBC
18. Top Back Right - TBR

There are others differences, if you need know more about WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE search the doc "mulchaud.rtf" (©1999 Microsoft Corporation)