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curious d
17th December 2005, 08:13
From reading these forums, I understand that DVD Shrink transcodes when compressing and the results are usually better with DVD-RB than with Shrink. I was wondering if there is no compression (original DVD is at less than 4.7 GB), is there any transcoding or is the final product exactly the same as the original when using DVDShrink? Thanks.

blutach
17th December 2005, 08:40
Exactly the same. No need for DVD Shrink/rebuilder anything except DVD Decrypter.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=246046&postcount=7

Regards

setarip_old
18th December 2005, 00:15
@curious d

Hi!
I was wondering if there is no compression (original DVD is at less than 4.7 GB), is there any transcoding or is the final product exactly the same as the original when using DVDShrink?
You might want to perform a simple experiment to find out firsthand:
Rip your DVD to your hard drive and then use DVD Shrink to make another copy to your hard drive (The copy protection will now be gone).

Then use a file comparison program to compare the individual .VOBs of each set...

blutach
18th December 2005, 00:34
@setarip_old

Can I ask what good that would be? DVD Shrink on no compression will write the same VOBs.

IMHO, it's just a waste of time.

Stay on the blue side!

Regards

curious d
18th December 2005, 04:11
If I'm making a backup of my disc, I still need to decrypt. After decrypting, I'm using DVDShrink to put it back into an ISO format. If there is no loss using DVDShrink with no compression, then I'd rather use it since it is faster. Is there another way of creating an ISO after decrypting?

writersblock29
18th December 2005, 04:34
@curious d

Yes. DVD Decrypter can be set to output an ISO image. You can then turn around and use the same program to burn with. (Don't take that statement literally! If you really DID "turn around," you'd not be facing your computer and would have a pretty tough time using Decrypter to burn! ;) ) So long as the ISO image is under 4.37 Gigs, you won't have any trouble.

DVD Shrink only does a straight-across copy of everything you select "no compression" for, meaning those particular segments are bit-for-bit perfect copies of your original material. I'll sometimes make use of this if I want to shrink menus before processing the disk through DVD Rebuilder.

curious d
18th December 2005, 04:58
Exactly the same. No need for DVD Shrink/rebuilder anything except DVD Decrypter.

http://forum.digital-digest.com/showpost.php?p=246046&postcount=7

Regards

Gosh. I wish I saw this link a little sooner. Thanks. Still, is there any transcoding with no compression?

blutach
18th December 2005, 05:15
If you really DID "turn around," you'd not be facing your computer and would have a pretty tough time using Decrypter to burn! I dunno there. I use DVD Decrypter (http://mrbass.org/dvdrip/) to burn all the time and I do it with my eyes closed outa the room :D

@curious d - have fun - I think you're set now :)

Regards

setarip_old
18th December 2005, 09:15
Still, is there any transcoding with no compression?
If you re-read the posting by "writersblock29", it includes the statement, "DVD Shrink only does a straight-across copy of everything you select 'no compression' for, meaning those particular segments are bit-for-bit perfect copies of your original material."

If you still have the same question, you can do what I previously suggested...

curious d
19th December 2005, 11:03
Thanks for the responses. If I had read things a little more closely, I wouldn't have posted my last two posts. Thanks for being patient with me. Have a good Christmas everyone.

writersblock29
20th December 2005, 03:14
@curious d

Happy Holidays back to you. Hope we helped you out!

setarip_old
20th December 2005, 22:43
@curious d

It sounds like the following post may provide a different answer to your original question:

http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=754765&postcount=4

One other interesting tidbit is that even though DVDShrink doesn't reencode the video, it makes some change to the VOB files

dragongodz
22nd December 2005, 11:01
It sounds like the following post may provide a different answer to your original question
not really. all that post is saying is that the vobs themselves are different, remuxxing can give you that. infact what you quoted does infact say the video is not being done. so no transcoding.