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guada 2
14th December 2005, 08:07
Hello, :)

I would like to know, which multimedia player allows to read an audio track MLP?

Bye.

Kurtnoise
14th December 2005, 09:20
windvd.



btw, change your title subject.

guada 2
14th December 2005, 20:07
" btw, change your title subject".
Sorry :)


Thank you very much Kurtnoise13.

Bye.

guada 2
14th December 2005, 20:44
Kurtnoise13,

Windvd 7 platinum doesn't read the MLP.
You can say to me why?

My encoding was been achieved with Surcode MLP.
Look at:


NOTE 1:
Encoder version: "1.23 (SL VC6 0.40 Sep 3 2002 10:31:18)"
Copyright: (C) 1998-2002 Meridian Audio
Hardware key: none found
Vendor: Minnetonka (#7 Sep 05 2002 12:32:37)
User: Minnetonka Audio Software (#10061 Jul 06 2004 23:16:00)
Encoder channel assignment: 20 ((Group 1) Lf, Rf, Ls, Rs / (Group 2) C, LFE)
Encoder input: Lf - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\left.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rf - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\right.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Ls - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\leftsur.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder input: Rs - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\rightsur.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder input: C - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\center.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder input: LFE - C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\cooledit manu six wave\441\sub.wav (16 bits, 44100 samples/sec)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Lf = -6.0 dB (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rf = off (0.501187)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Ls = -12.0 dB (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - Rs = off (0.251189)
Encoder downmix: left channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813)
Encoder downmix: left channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Lf = off (0.177828) (slot 0/0)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rf = -6.0 dB (0.501187) (slot 1/1)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Ls = off (0.501187) (slot 2/2)
Encoder downmix: right channel - Rs = -12.0 dB (0.251189) (slot 3/3)
Encoder downmix: right channel - C = -9.0 dB (0.354813) (slot 4/4)
Encoder downmix: right channel - LFE = -15.0 dB (0.177828) (slot 5/5)
Encoder output: C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\MLP\milca.mlp
Encoder range: start - 0.000000 seconds (0 samples) / stop - 298.028435 seconds (13143054 samples)
Encoder peak bits-per-sample: 217.686996
Encoder data rate: variable rate
Encoder IEC61937: not IEC61937-compliant (information only)
Encoder restart gap: every 8 access units
Encoder Auto BDR: Step #0 Lf=0 Rf=0 Ls=0 Rs=0 C=0 LFE=0
Encoder initialization: succeeded
Encoder encoding: succeeded


NOTE 2:

Verify: version 4123200
Verify: verifying stream "C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\MLP\milca.mlp".
Verify: stream "C:\Documents and Settings\mario\Mes documents\audio\MLP\milca.mlp" passed.

Which are your remarks? Please to clarify.
:thanks:

Kurtnoise
14th December 2005, 20:56
IIRC, dvd-a and mlp support have been removed in the version 7. Try with the version 6.

guada 2
14th December 2005, 21:00
"Try with the version 6".
I will check it.

Guada 2
To reassure you, Surcode MLP Lossless reads it without problem.

To soon.

guada 2
15th December 2005, 02:03
I tried Windvd6, it does not accept it either. :(
it is already better, but that is not enough.

Someone else, an idea......

ariga
15th December 2005, 07:55
Tried PowerDVD ?

guada 2
15th December 2005, 18:13
Thanks ariga,
But it is similar (I tried the last version of PowerDVD XP).

Others idea....

guada 2
15th December 2005, 19:14
Wow!!!!
I found a software DigiOnSound5 .
A must.

Look at:
http://www.digion.com/en/news/20051201.htm

guada 2
16th December 2005, 13:57
Hello,

Currently, I seek a multiplexer m2v/mlp.
Somebody has an idea?

Thank you.

Kurtnoise
16th December 2005, 16:43
You can't mux m2v with mlp as far I know. So, if you want to mux m2v file with a lossless audio format, you can try matroska. it suppports wavpack, tta, and flac.

guada 2
16th December 2005, 18:01
Thanks;

But how is it possible with Blu-Ray, even HD DVD?
Which is the difference between the MLP Lossless 5.1 and a file Lossless 5.1 except the quality?
And, if if I succeeded in making a MLP Lossless of 24/192 K on two channels, do you believe that Matroska will be able to multiplex with the m2v?

Kurtnoise
16th December 2005, 18:41
Which is the difference between the MLP Lossless 5.1 and a file Lossless 5.1 except the quality?
Are you joking ? We speak about lossless format not lossy. The differences between them could be some features like portability, software/hardware supports, open source, etc...but please quality has nothing to do here.

And, if if I succeeded in making a MLP Lossless of 24/192 K on two channels, do you believe that Matroska will be able to multiplex with the m2v?
no...Matroska doesn't support mlp.

guada 2
17th December 2005, 02:36
"Are you joking ?" "but please quality has nothing to do here"

Excuse me, I didn't choose the good term. :)
But don't prefer you not to hear an audio file MLP, rather than Flac, Monkeys audio, Wavpack, or TTA?

"But how is it possible with Blu-Ray, even HD DVD?" (guada 2)
You have an idea on this question, you seems more informed than me in this field? :)

Kurtnoise
17th December 2005, 17:41
But don't prefer you not to hear an audio file MLP, rather than Flac, Monkeys audio, Wavpack, or TTA?
no...again it's lossless.

"But how is it possible with Blu-Ray, even HD DVD?" (guada 2)
You have an idea on this question, you seems more informed than me in this field? :)
I've no idea...

guada 2
17th December 2005, 20:08
Thank you very much for your point of view.

"no...again it's lossless"
Yes, yes, yes its lossless......

:) :) :)
But..... why the MLP Lossles for the video and not Flac or another.
It is commercial (Meridian) or it is a perfectly reasonable choice of the majors.

Look at one uses well Flac in high fidelity (Mcintosh/Chord/Goldmund....).

What can you understand?

Kurtnoise
18th December 2005, 13:37
But..... why the MLP Lossles for the video and not Flac or another.
where did you read that ?

guada 2
18th December 2005, 17:47
Look at this:

http://hometheater.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.dolby.com/about/news%5Fevents/press%5Freleases/pr%5F23.09.04.html

What do you think?

guada 2
18th December 2005, 23:46
Kurtnoise13,

Apparently audio side, Hd-dvd will use Dolby DIGITAL Plus (more channels and of numerical flow) and the MLP Lossless.
This process of compression/décompression in real time, invented by Meridian Audio but whose Dolby manages the licences, is already of setting on the DVD Audio:it will make it possible to still improve quality of the audio data on Hd-dvd.Blu-Ray will use Dolby DIGITAL.
Commercial or not commercial I DON'T KNOW.But......

However a question challenges me.

Which is the difference between the MLP Lossless 5.1 / 7.1 and Dolby TrueHD lossless 5.1 / 7.1, besides its flexibility? ( future standards audio high definition multichannel for HD DVD ).