Backing up a "Hard Case"

[S3NTYN3L]

I'm a newb when it comes to this type of thing so please go easy on me...

In the vstrip guide (http://www.doom9.org/index.html?/vstrip.htm) it mentions T2 Ultimate Edition as being a "hard case". I am having major problems with this particular DVD. Could someone be so kind as to point out what my settings need to be in order for me to get this to work?

I'm extremely new to this program so some hand-holding and acronym explainations are probably in order...

Thanx so much! :)

[manono]

Hello, and welcome to the forum-

Well, that VStrip guide is over 3 years old, and I seriously doubt there's anything that you need VStrip for these days. DVD Decrypter can do what you want. However, you were none too specific about what you want. Are you making a DVD backup, an AVI, SVCD? Do you want to strip the seamless branching, or keep it? That is, do you want the theatrical version, the extended version (or whatever it's called in T2 UE) or both?

[S3NTYN3L]

Thank you for the reply.

I'm looking to backup everything ( menus, main movie, etc ) on the disk in DVD format. That is to say, the same format that it's in already. VOB is DVD format right?

I have DVDShrink 3.2 and DVD Decrypter 3.5.4 as well as VStrip.
Your saying i can go ahead and dump VStrip?

[manono]

Hi-

Yep, that's what I'm saying. Go ahead and dump VStrip. As you'll see, there's virtually no learning curve associated with DVD Decrypter. Set it up in File Mode (Mode->File, up at the top), Decrypt the files to your hard drive, and send them through DVD Shrink. I won't vouch for how they'll look after Shrink gets through with them, though. :) Doom9 has a guide for DVD Decrypter somewhere, I think:

http://www.doom9.org/dvddec.htm

There's a link in there that takes you to an explanation of the Settings showing how to get it to remove PUOs and some other things you might find useful. Good luck, and come back if you need more help.

[S3NTYN3L]

Thanks again for your reply.

I'm sorry for just now getting around to acknowledging your reply.
I've been out of town for turkey-day and broke my wrist on top of that...

I've tried running T2 thru DVD Decrypter and it gives me an error.
Something about a bad sector or sector address. (I'll post the error later. I'm on a friend's machine at the moment.)

I'll try running it the way you suggested and get back to you either way.

Thanks again for the help... :)

[manono]

Hi-

If you have bad sectors, then you most likely have a slight scratch, dirt, fingerprints, or even just some dust on it. It may seem very minor and unnoticeable to you, it might play fine on the standalone, but decrypting software is pretty sensitive to those kinds of things. You might try cleaning the disc. You can also set DVD Decrypter to skip the errors, but there's a chance you'll get some corruption at the bad spot(s).

DVDFab Decrypter can also decrypt the files easily. But if DVD Decrypter choked on it, then most likely DVDFab Decrypter will also.

Sorry about the wrist. Just what you don't need with the holiday season upon us.

[S3NTYN3L]

Well, try as I might, DVD Decrypter can't get this one done.
I let it run for about 4 hours and just kept getting sector error after sector error.

Just a question off the top of my head:
What is considered to be the maximum amount of sector errors before you will notice them upon playback?

Again, thank you for the help and the patience with a newbie... :)
Happy Holidays to you!

Wrist is doing better these days, btw. Although I don't have (and most likely won't ever have) any feeling in my thumb... sigh, nerve damage of some such thing...

[setarip_old]

DVD Decrypter can't get this one done.
I let it run for about 4 hours and just kept getting sector error after sector error.
1) Have you, as suggested, tried cleaning the DVD?

2) To determine if a rip of this DVD will be acceptable for viewing, set DVD Decrypter (Tools>>Settings>>I/O) to -0- "software read error retries" and put a checkmark next to "Ignore read errors". You'll get a completed rip in, hopefully, a reasonable amount of time, without having to be stuck at the computer.

Then using a software DVD player, such as WinDVD, or PowerDVD, or VLC, play the ripped DVD "package" (as "DVD", NOT simply individual .VOBs)from your hard drive...

[S3NTYN3L]

Oh yes, I've got one clean DVD over here, lol...
I'll try your suggestion and post back later.

[blutach]

2) To determine if a rip of this DVD will be acceptable for viewing, set DVD Decrypter (Tools>>Settings>>I/O) to -0- "software read error retries" and put a checkmark next to "Ignore read errors". You'll get a completed rip in, hopefully, a reasonable amount of time, without having to be stuck at the computer.@S3NTYN3L

If you follow the above procedure, it may appear to be a good rip, when all it has done is simply ignored the real read errors. It is just smoke and mirrors.

The author of DVD Decrypter (Lightning UK!) always strongly advised not to change the default settings. I'd stick to Lightning UK!'s advice above all others in this regard.

If your disk is scratched, return it for a exchange (if you can).

@manono - Using DVD Fab Decrypter is tantamount to doing what seatrip old suggested (as it ignores all read errors by default!).

Regards