Can't Rip Mulholland Drive (pal)

[band1t]

I am trying to make a backup of my dvd of Mulholland Drive(PAL).
But it seems impossible. I have used DVD decrypter, AnyDVD, DVD SHrink but with no success. It all goes fine til VTS 01_4 VOB file. in about 47% the errors show up. Read Error, cant read this sector. I tried to check the "ignore read errors" and set the "repeat read errors 0" THe dvd tried to rip for 15hours and still on the same sector(read errors 60000)

I suppose its a "fake" sector, but I can't get around it. Any suggestions?
I love this dvd and want a backup. The dvd is perfect, no scratches.

[Boulder]

Have you tried DVDFab Decrypter?

[band1t]

No I have not. Why would you think that will solve it? I thought dvd-decrypter could take anything with the right tweaking?

[setarip_old]

@band1t

Hi!

That DVD was released in 2002. I'm quite certain it contains no copy protection other than the then-standard CSS and Macrovision.

I tried to check the "ignore read errors" and set the "repeat read errors 0" THe dvd tried to rip for 15hours and still on the same sector(read errors 60000)

This makes no sense. If, in fact, you did change the setting to -0- software read error retries and checked "Ignore read errors" there's no way DVD Decrypter would get hung up on one sector (Perhaps you forgot to press "OK" after making those selections)...

Otherwise, you'd be best served returning the DVD and getting a new one in exchange...

[band1t]

I checked the, "no retries on errors" (0) and "ignore read errors" but still, decrypter still, of course, reads the errors! But it need no confirmation when it read errors and dont retries. I think it is a fake sector, the dvd runs perfect in any dvd player, no problems what so ever. And the disc is scratch-free....

[setarip_old]

Once again, if you have set DVD Decrypter to "no retries on errors" (0) and "ignore read errors" it will ONLY TRY TO READ THAT SECTOR ONCE...

[band1t]

Now I have tried FAB-decrypter...... AND IT WORKED PERFECT!!
THANK YOU FOR THE TIP :D

[cynthia_old]

Just be aware that if DVDFab Decrypter finds a bad sector (can't read the sector) it inserts a dummy sector - so your ripp might look bad with a lot of blank parts when you watch the burned disc.

[band1t]

I have now, ripped, recoded(nero) an burned a copy of this dvd and it is perfect. It was the only program that managed the task. But I really dont know why dvd-decrypter didnt manange this task! I would like to find out, its probably just setting up dvd-decrypter correct....

[cynthia_old]

Because DVD Decrypter will stop when it can't read a faulty sector - DVDFab just ignores it and replaces it with a dummy.

[influenza]

I've ripped this dvd long time ago and it has no special protection or anything. Sometimes dvddecrypter can be very picky on dvds. Although they are unscratched there are still read errors. It's very rare but it happens. Using an other combo either hardware or software usually solves this.

So it's not certain that dvdfab decrypter has inserted dummy sectors as it might have been able to correctly read the disc without any problem.

[band1t]

Tnx for answer influenza. No, you are right! Dvdfab did not insert any dummy sectors, it read the disc perfect. And you are right to about dvd-decrypter can be very picky! I have encountered this problem several times with other dvds, now I maybe stand stronger against these "read errors" :p hehe! Have a nice weekend eveyone :)

[cynthia_old]

Dvdfab did not insert any dummy sectors,How do you know that?

[band1t]

"it inserts a dummy sector - so your ripp might look bad with a lot of blank parts when you watch the burned disc."

I know, because I have seen the backup...

[setarip_old]

@band1t

Not that it's important, but just to make sure you understand - Watching your burned DVD and not noticing any glitches or disruptions does NOT in any way mean or prove that no dummy sectors were written to replace bad sectors. It depends on where on the disc such sectors may have been written.

You should also know that it's been indicated at another forum (where "Fengtao", the publisher of DVDFab Decrypter is a moderator) that DVDFab Decrypter does, in fact, automatically replace all non-readable sectors of any DVD with dummy sectors...

[blutach]

It's an old disk, no special protection. If you can't rip it with DVD Decrypter, then it's scratched, smudged etc.

Try cleaning it.

Regards

[band1t]

WTF blutach!! Read the posts! IT IS PERFECT! X(

[setarip_old]

@band1t

Don't get upset with "blutach". I'm sure he/she was only trying to provide useful information - and simply overlooked some of the information you had already provided...

Since I'm significantly older than "blutach", I can say this - Sometimes age is a factor ;>}

[blutach]

WTF blutach!! Read the posts! IT IS PERFECT! X(No, it isn't. Despite setarip's misguided remarks about me overlooking your info, if DVD Decrypter chokes on this disk, then it has one or more bad sectors. Period.

Read what cynthia said:

Because DVD Decrypter will stop when it can't read a faulty sector - DVDFab just ignores it and replaces it with a dummy.Setarip himself says this is so (which it is). I have asked fengtao to at least allow an option not to ignore all read errors and he says that will be provided (when?)

Just cos you can't see the problem (it might just be one bad sector and that might be hard to spot), it doesn't mean it isn't bad.

Now, what would you rather have? A perfect copy, or something that has glossed over the bad sectors and just makes you feel that everything is A-OK?

Plus, there's no need to get mad or shout. It's against forum rules.

Regards

[setarip_old]

Now, what would you rather have? A perfect copy, or something that has glossed over the bad sectors and just makes you feel that everything is A-OK?

For those whose primary or only concern is to make a backup that plays perfectly, as long as playback is not affected, it very likely makes no difference...

[band1t]

First of all, sry for the last posting. I was in a terrible mood :( sry.

I want a perfect copy as long as it is possible....

[blutach]

NP band1t. We're cool.

Regards