Error 0006 : Framecount differences

[steptoe]

Just keep getting this error with an episode DVD I've compiled, never seen it before, and had no problems in the past with compiling episode DVD's from 1 or more DVD's

Used TMPGenc DVD Author to create the DVD, which I've always used and never encountered problems with DVD-RB and the DVDs I create

The error is :

Error 0006 : DVD-RB has found framecount differences between the PREPARE and REBUILD phases. Aborting.


I use one-click mode so special settinsg, just the usual settings I use normally, CCE 3-pass, iDCT 64-bit IEEE-1180

These are settings I use everytiem, except changing the number of passes for CCE

Any suggestions to what may be going wrong here, first time I've had this error. No changes to DVD-RB, nothing

In fact I did a few episode DVDs the same way a couple of days ago, fine as usual

[jdobbs]

That error happens when DVD-RB is trying to reapply flags to the newly generated MPEG stream that were collected during PREPARE. It pulls a frame from the input -- only to find that it has reached the end of the flags file. In other words there are more frames encoded than were in the original. That's pretty much always a bad thing.

Another possibility that I've only seen once (and that was using ReJig on a badly cut source) is related to the fact that flags are applied based upon temporal position. If a reference frame was orphaned because other frames that needed it were missing (physically stored after the it, but scheduled to be presented before it).

[steptoe]

Errrr, sorry, but you lost me a bit there

Whats the possible way around it then, I did cut the start and end titles of each episode as I didn't see the point in having upto 1min 30secs of useless rubbish per episode repeated for every episode


So explaining about it looking for frames that are no longer there could a possability, but surely if the DVD has been recreated using authoring software it should recreate with the information it now has ?

[Rockas]

How did you cut the episodes?

[feedback]

Wasn't there some sort of bug associated with iDCT 64-bit IEEE-1180?

[jdobbs]

My guess is that this is an error introduced by TMPGENC... but I don't know that without the source.

[steptoe]

Didn't cut the epiosdes as such, just changed the start and end using the basic built-in editor with TMPGenc DVD Author, so its not cutting it as such

Not using the latest TMPGenc DVD Author as yet, but quite probably will eventually

[jdobbs]

Oh yes it is... and that is exactly what I thought had happened.

[writersblock29]

@Jdobbs

Re: "ERROR 0006: DVD-RB has found framecount differences between the PREPARE and REBUILD phases. Aborting."

I've just recieved this same error on the bonus disk (Region 1) for Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs. Since I was using NAN's DGDecode.dll, I switched back to the original decoder which is included in the installer package... no dice, and the backup fails in the same location.

There's no preprocessing; the disk has been ripped with DVDFab Decrypter (I had the same error using a DVD Decrypter rip on a different attempt) and fed directly into Rebuilder. I checked the original files out with DVD Remake, as well as letting Nero Recode analize them, and neither complained about anything. The original files are playable on Nero Showtime.

I'm using DVD Rebuilder Pro v1.03, running Undot().Deen() as well as Decomb.

I've included some attachments (hopefully... :eek: it's my first time attaching anything to a post in this forum) that I hope can help, and will be more than happy to give more details if you need them.

This is my first real "error" message using Rebuilder -- and that's saying a lot, since I've backed up a HUGE chunk of my video library with it. Thanks for such a great program, Jdobbs! :)

[jugbugs]

I am accually getting this error as well.

I am having problems with Polar Express. Ripped using DVD Fab Decrypter. I have reauthored the DVD using DVDReMake 3.1.4 (to remove warnings and previews). Using CCE 2.70.02 for the recode.

I have yet to try it without reauthoring. Doing that now.

Any Ideas?

[jdobbs]

I did the R1 Version... no problems...

[michael6668]

I had exactly the same issue with the R1 Polar Express using the CCE 2.70.02 without removing anything from the disc ripped with Decrypter... just doing a One-Click in DVD-RB. I have seen this same error a couple of other discs recently.

Trying Polar again with HC to see if I get the same error. Should I be using FabDec?

[writersblock29]

@michael6668

Region 1? That's strange! I just did Polar Express without any issues whatsoever, also ripping with DVD Decrypter (and removing nothing beforehand). I wonder if CCE versions make any difference: I'm using 2.5.

The Snow White disk I ripped first with Decrypter... then hit the Error 0006 wall. The second time out, I used DVD Fab Decrypter... but to no avail. I really don't think it makes much difference to this situation -- but, hey! It it works, let us know!

[michael6668]

Worked with HC no issues... it appears to be a CCE issue.

[jdobbs]

I did Polar Express, R1, NTSC with CCE Basic 2.70 -- no problems. Ripped with Decrypter and encoded directly.

[jugbugs]

I tried this both with DVD FAb (unedited) and DVD Decrypter (unedited) and got the same error. If michael6668 is also using CCE SP 2.70.02 then perhaps there is a conflict between rebuilder and that version of CCE SP.

[Rockas]

have you tried another CCE version?
DVD Rebuilder is not incompatible with CCE SP 2.70.02... but there are some CCE SP 2.70.02's "strange" releases that are incompatible with good results... know what I mean? ... there are some old posts in this forums that point into that direction.

[jdobbs]

Not compatible with CCE v2.70.02? In what way?

[writersblock29]

In my particular case (Snow White Bonus Disk), I can say CCE had nothing to do with it: I ran it again using HC, and it gave the same results as the encode with CCE 2.5 did.

The Polar Express thing kind of raises an eyebrow, though. Jdobbs and I both did this same disk (both region 1) with two different versions of CCE without a hitch. It's pretty odd that both Jugbugs and Micheal6668 ran into trouble... even stranger that Micheal668 was able to overcome it using HC. While it's cool that Micheal6668 was able to do this ( :D ), it still begs the question of what's causing it.

All stocked up on aspirin, Jdobbs? :)

[jugbugs]

jdobbs, I really am not that familiar on exactly how rebuilder works (specifically) thus I don't know what is going on here. My suggestion was simply that perhaps something makes Polar Express different than the hundreds of other DVDs I have done with rebuilder that causes some error for the CCE 2.70.02 + Rebuilder combo

Rockas, I do know what you mean, but my version of CCE is from a friend in the encoding business and is a legal copy of the software. I will see if I can get a hold of an earlier version and try it that way.

Has anyone done a Polar Express rebuild with CCE SP 2.70.02??

[jdobbs]

@jugbugs

Take a look at the D2VAVS directory for the failed encode (if you have it) and see if you can find a .FLG file that has a zero length. I've noted what appears to be a bug in DVDFab in which it inappropriately blanks out a cell when working with ILVU. In the test I did, it caused the error in VOBID 13, CELLID 1 on Polar Express. The real trouble with the blanking is that it also blanks out the ILVU flag in the NAVPACKS. As a result you have a dangling empty cell that interrupts the ILVU stream. You would also have missing video from either the spanish or french playback (I can't remember which that cell was).

The condition occurred when ripping using DVDFab on a mounted ISO that had been ripped already with DVD Decrypter -- but the Decrypter version did not have the blanked cell. I'll try it again later today with the original disc, but I think it will do the same thing.

If you rip it with DVD Decrypter only is will work correctly.

[jugbugs]

-jdobbs

I don't still have those files. However, I will attempt to grab them again and do the encode.

What version of DVDFab are you using? There was a new version released recently, perhaps a fix for this?

P.S. - thanks for the help :)