Old AutoRV10 discussion (closed) [Archive] - Page 2

hoola

10th October 2003, 04:49

hi all. i kept running across this thread about autorv9 and how rv9 is so good at low low bitrates and such. i never once even thought about giving it a shot just to see. i always said yeah right rv sucks and then hit the back button. well.....take into mind i was/am? an long time divx user. for a few years actually. i thought i would give it a shot. all i can say is WOW. i was flabbergasted on how low i could really push it. i OWN the dvd chicago that i backed up using divx 5.1 2cd rip. cant remember bitrate or anything off hand but the encode is very very nice as one would expect a 2 cd divx rip to be. near dvd quality for sure. well i ran chicago through autorv9 gave my settings for 1 cd rip no extra filters or such just to see what i would get. full res! well hours and hours later and after finding a player that will play rm without having to install realone or whatever. i loaded up the file 697mb and WOW. i was really shocked. the quality was very nice. not at all what i expected. the file was archive worthy forsure. i tend to just be a little hard on my own encodes. i watch for articfats and such. hehe stuff most people would not notice in a million years. anywho. i cant say enough what it has done for my toon encoding. i cap alot of spongebob squarepants for the nephews and i usually get one ep down to around 90mb for a 512x384 capture the quality if very good. well, i got the same episode down to 32mb with autorv9 light filtering same res and the quality is **should i say it** better than my divx conversion. it may take a few weeks or so to make the switch over to rv9 for good. i think im still in denial. lol i just never thought of real media for archiving. dunno why really. i guess i was just so used to using the same codec. i felt confortable with and knew i could make a good encode with. im not saying rv9 is better than divx but i am saying if i can get the same quality i have been getting and using only half the amount of space. ill take it. i cant wait to play with E.H.Q to see what it has to offer.

ill stop rambling now and just say thanks for a wonderful prog.extreamly user friendly or i would not have gave it a try. ill leave now. :) :) **walks away while still trippin out on how low the bits can be pushed with rv9**

Atamido

10th October 2003, 05:39

If you just install the RealOne player, you don't have to use it. Just install it, then get the Real Directshow filter. Transmux the RV9 file to MKV, and you can have all sorts of goodies with it. With the Real DirectShow filter, and the ability to use it in MKV, Real Video 9 has become a very flexible and competetive format.

cjaar

13th October 2003, 13:49

@hoola,

just want to now how long did it take to encode the full move in rm???
i did just test with a small clip, it was good, i tried on full movie,(without filters, machine 2.4G, 512 DDR)
after 9hrs it was still in first pass :(, i am using DC tool for this.
I am not able to play the audio in this fmate... the player wmp6 gives err unknow formate and the latest mcp say version mismacth, something like that ..... and hv insatlled real-anternative104.exe...

Generally i use divx with ffdshow filter and the burn the cd, if people use rm what filter they add to play the file on the cd, so that if i give it to my friends they can play without any extra sw. any info will be helpfull

thanks
cjaar

hoola

13th October 2003, 15:28

@cjaar

hey. if i can remember it took around 13-15 hours to encode.keep in mind that was full res. i have the latest real-alternative 1.09 from betanews and the .rmvb file plays perfect in windows classic. i used autorv9 xp 1.3(awsome prog,,,props to the author) for the encoding. the film is 1hour 53min long and looks great on 1 700mb cdr. im sure if i would have used filters nnd ehq the encoding time would have dramaticly increased. i only use filters for tv caps anyways.when backing up the dvds i own i hardly ever use any filters. what i did was put the realalt109.exe which includs mpc file on the cd with the movie what way if someone wants to borrow and watch they can just install it befor watching movie.i know some people dont like installing other software just to watch a file. BUT...after all the backup was made for me. so if they want to borrow and watch it they will have to use what i know works for me. im not too techno inclined so i like bundles like realalt109 that comes with everything i need.

not that i know for sure but 1.09 shoud fix your problem with sound. good bug fixes between 1.04 and 1.09. im sorry im not more help but im no expert by no means. sometimes i tend to use what works and not whats,according to the masses, right.

hoola

17th October 2003, 18:00

hi i hope someone can answer this. i have a dvd on my harddrive. it is in vob files 1-7 i can load the move into autorv9 with the d2v file. is there a way to load just one of the vob files? if there is what would the avs look like. im sorry if this has already been answered. i have read and used search. maybe i just over looked it.

EDIT:: never mind i think i found my answer in http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=44625&highlight=autorv9+vob i would still like examples on how others do this. thanks ill try this later tonight. peace and thanks again for the awsome prog.

Dark-Cracker

17th October 2003, 23:28

if u only use one .vob file, simply load dvd2avi v1.76 select the desired .vob file (it will automaticly ask u for adding other .vob simply remove them) and create this sample .d2v file :)

else create a .avs file and use the .trim(startframe,endframe) to select hte desired part to encode.

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snowcrash

18th October 2003, 00:18

Dark-Cracker,

Thank you for the fantastic program. I'm encoding anime with AutoRV9 and I'm very happy with the results I'm getting. And it's so easy to use. I especially like how one can easily tweak the colors and instantly see the changes (increasing color saturation is a great way to make animes look better, IMO). Your program is so well done... for example, when one goes to crop a video, the video preview window is not covered up by any other windows like in GK. You do it right. Thanks again for all your work.

bilu

18th October 2003, 00:23

Let me sign your comment too.

D-C, you deserve to hear this more often ;)

Cheers,
Bilu

hoola

18th October 2003, 01:05

else create a .avs file and use the .trim(startframe,endframe) to select hte desired part to encode.
@Dark-Cracker
thank you very much for your reply. im still new to avisynth so i read up a little more on .trim and that is what i needed. thank you again so much for replying.
sometimes it seems there is so much to learn it tends to get overwhelming and one over looks those things.

thanks again!! :)

bilu

18th October 2003, 16:57

@Dark-Cracker

Some questions:

1) Packet size is still 15000, shouldn't it be 16000?
I'm using AutoRV9 1.3 + last update EXE on this thread (for compressibility)

2) I've seen many values for quality (been learning from the threads on the last 4 days, was complete n00b on RV9) - 80,83,87, and now 75.

Why quality 75%? Is it enough as a first pass for you? And how much compressibility would you recommend? 60% to 75% like in MPEG-4?

Maybe tests should be made over complex scenes using vbrquality and the least post-processing possible to get a reference value. It's hard to say on RV9 because it allways looks good, we'll have to find some pretty hard scenes to do it :)

3) About PatternAdaptivity and ScalingFactor, do you plan to add them to your tool?

Thanks for the effort and quality of your tools :)

Bilu

Dark-Cracker

18th October 2003, 18:15

hi,

@all
thank u very much for your nice answers, i am always happy when i see my work can help other people :)

@bilu
1) in fact under my old win98 i have see sometimes the packetsize was not always enable when i have set it at 16000 and in the spec the value 15000 is write as maximum so i have prefer to set it at 15000 because even if 16000 work beetween two millestone this value could be down at 15000. no very important because it's the max size packet, it's rarely rushed.

2) quality 75% seems to give aproximatively same size than quant 2 for mpeg4 codec. so this value have been used for the compressibility test. the compressibility test was still experimental for rv9 there will not have a lot of feedback with this option , in my tests, u can obtain a % lower around 55% give u good result, and with rv9 the % doesn't change a lot even if u change resolution.

yes tests are welcome but i am back to school and it will be hard to find time for this :).

3)PatternAdaptivity param seems to change the bitrate redistribution so changing it manualy could be dangerous, scalingfactor will probabely be added in next release :)

i will see later with karl if these params really can improve quality and which settings to use :).

Bye.

alx

22nd October 2003, 08:03

Hi DC, this time is to ask one simle question.......something that happens only to me until now.
With your last version (1.3), i tried to do a movie wich is in the directory "g:\MATRIX RELOADED DISC 1\New Folder" and AutoRV9 when i tried to start the preview or the codec, says "avserror in line 9, cannot proccess g:\MATRIX RELOADED DISC 1\New Folder\Folder\1_Movie.avs" or something like that......
Please NOTICE the second "Folder" after de "New Folder\"......is repeated, so, of course, mpegsource never could find de .d2v.
Is just me???
Alx

bilu

22nd October 2003, 19:23

Are there any differences between Avisynth techniques to improve compressibility in MPEG-4 and RV9?

@alx
can you try again but renaming the "New Folder" to something else but also with more than one word and with spaces?

Bilu

Kb_cruncher

2nd November 2003, 03:22

bilu - I normally use c3d and undot with mpeg4 but decided to try rv9 without any filters.Compressabilty came out the same and there was no difference in quality when comparing the same encode with those filters, so i would say you could proberbly get away without any filters and keep sharpness.I did notice though that there is no speed improvement between using filters and not using filters.

wata

4th November 2003, 06:40

is it possible to select voice mode for audio cause my souce is mono (but not in mono format but in stereo with sound on 1 channel only)

Dark-Cracker

4th November 2003, 08:58

hi,

no sorry for the moment it's not possible to use voice codec for the audio stream.

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superdump

4th November 2003, 16:43

DC: Any news on the rv9 codec pack?

Griniaris

5th November 2003, 00:10

I have solved my problem with the needed dlls and I am finally able to create RV9 standalone cds!
It was really simple actually and I meant to let you know for quite some time but I forgot it...
I place 4 files on the cd along with the movie and use a startup program to load the movie. The files are: Mplayerc.exe (Media Player Classic for the playback of course) pncrt.dll, cook3260.dll, drv43260.dll (for RV9 video and 5.1 cook audio).
If you need to playback different video or audio just replace theese dlls with the needed ones and it works like a charm!

Thanks for this great program! I love it!

Dark-Cracker

5th November 2003, 10:20

hi,

@superdump
in fact a few week ago i was crashing my HD i have lost 30 gb (my sources for autodub, autorv9, property shit and analyser, landub, avisynth editor, besweet lite gui ...) i have also lost my report for my training period needed for my studies, and also the rv9 pack (finished 1 hour before the crash :( ).

i have succeded to rescue , an old version of autodub (v1.7.5) and a previous beta of autorv9 (v1.3 beta 5.6). i am actually updating them, but for the codec pack i will made it later, not enought time to made all.

@griniaris
hum i think u need a lot of other dll, in the registry the path of the common, codec, and bandwith is stored, so i think your dll in your cd simply call the other dll needed for the playback.

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Griniaris

6th November 2003, 13:45

But I tried deleting all other dlls and registry keys and the file is still playable!
This works only with MPC and not all other players...
Perhaps you are right and there is something more that I am missing but try it and you will see.
Can anyone else please also confirm?

Ramirez

6th November 2003, 21:31

Your little trick works like a charm, I've Uninstalled RealOne, then cleaned "Program files\Common\Real" folder, rebooted and then burned RV9 movie on a CD along with "atrc3260.dll" "cook3260" "drv43260.dll" "pncrt.dll" Total: 1.46MB. This trick probably works because MPC has built-in Real Media splitter\ A/V decoder.

Griniaris

6th November 2003, 23:01

That's why I told you it only works with MPC...
I have done the same thing and also deleted all registry keys about Real dlls and it works ok for me too.
The nice thing with MPC's internal filters is that you can even use Matroska as a container for the rmvb file (I use it to also include chapters in the files) and it is still playable without any other filters.
Thanks for the testing, I am glad it worked for you too!

Sirber

8th November 2003, 21:44

I've got a strange bug while loading a D2V:

http://www.webernic.com/sites/sirber/ARV9_E1.PNG

Dark-Cracker

9th November 2003, 15:51

@sirber

u need to re-install avisynth v2.5.2 from the official package (www.avisynth.org) apparently sometime the avisynth installation bundle with my package failed.

Bye.

Lobuz

9th November 2003, 16:09

It could be really nice if MPC could use decoder files embeded in MKV file. Of course it could work only on Windows. But there could be embeded decoder for other platfor too. ;-) Or would it be possible to mkv splitter to use those embeded decoders?

Regards
Lobuz

ps. wasn't there a project to embede multiplatform codecs with special api?

Sirber

9th November 2003, 17:06

ok

it was AVISynth problem. Got it reinstalled and works #1 now :)

snowcrash

15th December 2003, 10:50

Is anyone familiar with the AutoRV9 options for audio boost? The default settings are:

Boost Factor: 4
Limit Factor: 0.85
DRC Algorithm: DspGuru

I can't find any documentation on these settings. In fact I can't find any decent documentation for AutoRV9 at all. There are a couple guides at the website, one for 1.1 in English that is not very good and another for 1.3 in French. The French guide looks like it covers all the options in AutoRV9, but unfortunately I don't understand French.

I wish someone would write a good guide for AutoRV9 in English that explains all the options.

tiki4

29th January 2004, 18:27

Hi there,

any chance to see AutoRV10 :p ? I guess, it's time to get Sirber a little bit of competition before he gets bored...

Na, seriously, what are you working on, Dark-Cracker?

Cheers,

tiki4

Dark-Cracker

29th January 2004, 21:01

@tiki

héhé don't be affraid autorv9 (with rv10 support of course :) ) is on the way :) and there will be some nice features added :)

surely something like :

- dvd ripping
- d2v analyse (detect interlace/ivtc)
- better chapters support
- big increase in the subtitle part

and of course some clean/bug fix

stay tuned :)

Bye.

tiki4

30th January 2004, 09:11

Ha, that's more than good news. I really like your proggie as it has some really unique features for RV9 encoding...

Keep up the good work, I'll stay tuned.

tiki4

hoola

30th January 2004, 17:45

héhé don't be affraid autorv9 (with rv10 support of course ) is on the way and there will be some nice features added

YES YES YES. I have long awaited news of an autorv9 update. Good to hear this news Dark-Cracker. Your work is greatly appreciated.

HOOLA.

3rd February 2004, 23:03

Hi.

I hope this hasn't been mentioned before.

I have a recuring problem with loading multiple jobs and then starting the encode. (Win 2k and XP, Rmvb, no audio, no subs, d2v source, producer 8 with patch, avsynth 2.5.4)

What happens is all jobs use the avs of the first job.

I thought I'd mention this as I here mention of a new version.

5th February 2004, 11:17

Can some on point me to a good reasorce. Or pass their wisdom on to me regarding when to use the DCT, Undot and Croma Noise Reduction Filters.

Also for non amime encodes dose any one use the fluxsmooth and convolution3d filters?

Cheers

#2

Dark-Cracker

5th February 2004, 11:42

hi,

@ #2
plz could u explain me exactely how to reproduce the bug with the multi jobs ? if i could reproduce it , i could solve it :)

for the filter :

DTC is not often usefull, use chroma noise reducer if u reencode some video capture, undot can be used for each encode.

fluxsmooth/convolution can be used for noisy DVD or u can use a light preset if u want to increase compressibility for long movie.

BYe.

5th February 2004, 21:01

Wow that was a wonderfully consice expalantion of those filters. What about the sharp filters any particular situation when they are really usefull. I notice they seem to increase bightness and produce a green hue shift? Also is there any disadvantage to using the undot filter?

Re. the specific senario with batch encodes, I'll get to work on that tonight. Can you let me know any particular information that you would find most usefull in my description?

Ta
#2

Soulhunter

5th February 2004, 23:42

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
DTC is not often usefull...
Ever wondered if its really usefull... :D

Did someone already tested this ???

Bye

Dark-Cracker

6th February 2004, 19:20

@soulhunter
DTC is used to remove some hight frequency not "really" visible for human eyes in order to improve compressibility.
the main problem it's trbarry have add a limitation (only resolution mod 16 are accepted) and it have no time to change it.

@ #2
yes i have made a quick description because i have no time (and not the full vocabulary) to explain exactely the effects of these filters but i think a quick search on this forum will answer at your questions :)
for undot there is no negative effects :)
for sharp filter this mean more details and more details mean less compressibility => increase final size.

u can see pictures of the effects here :
http://www.hauhazice.com/images/autorv9_12.jpg
http://www.hauhazice.com/images/autorv9_13.jpg

to help me to find the bugs give me all the informations needed to reproduce it. (for exemple : i onpen the .d2v , i select the filter xxx and xxx i let the default output name and i click on save. i reopen an another .d2v file ...etc) i just need to know step by step what u do in order i can do the same on my computer to destroy this bug :) .

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snowcrash

6th February 2004, 22:54

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
@tiki

héhé don't be affraid autorv9 (with rv10 support of course :) ) is on the way :) and there will be some nice features added :)

surely something like :

- dvd ripping
- d2v analyse (detect interlace/ivtc)
- better chapters support
- big increase in the subtitle part

and of course some clean/bug fix

stay tuned :)

Bye.

It's great to hear that you will be updating AutoRV9. Do you have a time frame on this? I'd like to suggest that you add the option to encode first and second pass as seperate jobs, as discussed here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64163

Also, do you think you could add support for the Dropdupe filter?

Thank you very much!

Dark-Cracker

6th February 2004, 23:54

hi,

yes separate pass will be added and dup + dropdupe is on the way :)

wait the next release :)

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8th February 2004, 08:16

Well this is all very interesting.

In Win 2K sp4 with Autorv9, producer m7, avsynth 253
4 encodes spanning 2 partions on different physical HDs

Logs:

Video Input File Path : D:\DVDRips\a\a.d2v
Output File Path : D:\DVDRips\a\a.rmvb
Tempory Directory : D:\DVDRips\a

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/08 12:47:47,0,"E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -i D:\DVDRips\a\a_Movie_2.avs -o D:\DVDRips\a\a.rmvb -ad c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpad -am music -vm normal -rs 672x408 -lc e,d" command line being run

Video Avisynth Script :

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MPEG2DEC3.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\TOMSMOCOMP.DLL")
# File needed to Improve Hight Motion Scene
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\BLOCKBUSTER.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MASKTOOLS.DLL")
Import("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\DATA\HIGHTMOTION.AVS")
#
# VIDEO SOURCE
Video=Mpeg2Source("D:\DVDRips\a\a.d2v")
#
# DEINTERLACING (default value : 1,5,0)
Video=TomsMoComp(Video,1,15,1)
#
# CROPPING
Video=Crop(Video,2,74,718,430)
#
# RESIZING
# AnaMorphic Resize (Do not Edit These Values)
# Real Resize Values : Width X Height ( 720 X 296 )
Video=LanczosResize(Video,496,296)
#
# Keep more details on Hight Scene Motion
Video=HightMotion(Video)
#
# LIMIT Chroma & Luma Value
Video=Limiter(Video)
#
# FINISH
Return(Video)

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Video Input File Path : D:\DVDRips\ab\ab.d2v
Output File Path : D:\DVDRips\ab\ab.rmvb
Tempory Directory : D:\DVDRips\ab

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/08 12:48:15,0,"E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -i D:\DVDRips\ab\ab_Movie_2.avs -o D:\DVDRips\ab\ab.rmvb -ad c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpad -am music -vm normal -rs 672x408 -lc e,d" command line being run

Video Avisynth Script :

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MPEG2DEC3.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\TOMSMOCOMP.DLL")
# File needed to Improve Hight Motion Scene
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\BLOCKBUSTER.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MASKTOOLS.DLL")
Import("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\DATA\HIGHTMOTION.AVS")
#
# VIDEO SOURCE
Video=Mpeg2Source("D:\DVDRips\ab\ab.d2v")
#
# DEINTERLACING (default value : 1,5,0)
Video=TomsMoComp(Video,1,15,1)
#
# CROPPING
Video=Crop(Video,2,74,718,430)
#
# RESIZING
# AnaMorphic Resize (Do not Edit These Values)
# Real Resize Values : Width X Height ( 704 X 288 )
Video=LanczosResize(Video,472,288)
#
# Keep more details on Hight Scene Motion
Video=HightMotion(Video)
#
# LIMIT Chroma & Luma Value
Video=Limiter(Video)
#
# FINISH
Return(Video)

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Video Input File Path : I:\abc\abc.d2v
Output File Path : I:\abc\abc.rmvb

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/08 12:48:35,0,"E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -i I:\abc\abc_Movie.avs -o I:\abc\abc.rmvb -ad c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpad -am music -vm normal -rs 672x408 -lc e,d" command line being run

Video Avisynth Script :

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MPEG2DEC3.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\TOMSMOCOMP.DLL")
# File needed to Improve Hight Motion Scene
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\BLOCKBUSTER.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MASKTOOLS.DLL")
Import("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\DATA\HIGHTMOTION.AVS")
#
# VIDEO SOURCE
Video=Mpeg2Source("I:\abc\abc.d2v")
#
# DEINTERLACING (default value : 1,5,0)
Video=TomsMoComp(Video,1,15,1)
#
# CROPPING
Video=Crop(Video,18,66,692,460)
#
# RESIZING
# AnaMorphic Resize (Do not Edit These Values)
# Real Resize Values : Width X Height ( 688 X 312 )
Video=LanczosResize(Video,468,312)
#
# Keep more details on Hight Scene Motion
Video=HightMotion(Video)
#
# LIMIT Chroma & Luma Value
Video=Limiter(Video)
#
# FINISH
Return(Video)

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Video Input File Path : I:\abcd\abcd.d2v
Output File Path : I:\abcd\abcd.rmvb
Tempory Directory : I:\abcd

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/08 12:48:46,0,"E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -i I:\abcd\abcd_Movie.avs -o I:\abcd\abcd.rmvb -ad c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpad -am music -vm normal -rs 672x408 -lc e,d" command line being run

Video Avisynth Script :

# PLUGINS
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MPEG2DEC3.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\TOMSMOCOMP.DLL")
# File needed to Improve Hight Motion Scene
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\BLOCKBUSTER.DLL")
LoadPlugin("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\AVSFILE\MASKTOOLS.DLL")
Import("E:\PROGRA~1\Autorv9\SOFTS\DATA\HIGHTMOTION.AVS")
#
# VIDEO SOURCE
Video=Mpeg2Source("I:\abcd\abcd.d2v")
#
# DEINTERLACING (default value : 1,5,0)
Video=TomsMoComp(Video,1,15,1)
#
# CROPPING
Video=Crop(Video,18,66,692,460)
#
# RESIZING
# AnaMorphic Resize (Do not Edit These Values)
# Real Resize Values : Width X Height ( 672 X 408 )
Video=LanczosResize(Video,596,408)
#
# Keep more details on Hight Scene Motion
Video=HightMotion(Video)
#
# LIMIT Chroma & Luma Value
Video=Limiter(Video)
#
# FINISH
Return(Video)

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Properties of each file reported by mpc 6474; Video size: 672 x 408

Possible mpc bug.

NOTE: Previously with different test files the -i on the command line = the first avs for all preceeding batchs and sometimes the -o = the file name of first in the batch run even though the file would end up in the .rmvb would end up named correctly. Neither of these happened this time.

IN XP sp1 with autorv9, producer m8, with EHQ notation patch, avsynth 254
4 encodes on one partition.

Again non of the symptoms noted above but ended up with the first encode being the resolution asked for and the last 3 all having the resolution of the last one.

I really don't know what to make of this. Both mpc and the real shell extention reported this messed up resolution. What all so happend on one of the XP tests (I ran a few identical to see if the results were consistant) was that the third and forth encodes had the same res height but different res width even though they were different resize settings.

May be this is something to do with the anamorphic resize and or the lanscoz resizer that I have been usesing. Or may be it's my system have a look at (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=70137) some other weird stuff thats been happening on this pc with Auto rv9 and co.

Hope this helps.

Take care

Dark-Cracker

8th February 2004, 16:10

hi,

hum apparently it's a bug in the anamorphic resize , it forget to refresh anamorphic resize if u do more than 1 job.

it always use : -rs 672x408 instead of 720 X 296 for your 3th job for exemple.

i will check this and fix this error :)

have u use keep cropped resolution ?

PS : i think u can edit your post to just leave command line and .avs file.

EDIT : Bug fixed :) thank u for the bug report .

Bye.

8th February 2004, 22:18

Nice work DC :)

In case you still need to know I didn't use "keep cropped resoultion"

Glad to be of assistance.

Very much looking forward to your next release. ;)

#2

Dark-Cracker

19th February 2004, 07:06

Hi,

AutoRV10 v1.0 Beta 1 is out :) !
just a quick update to add support of rv10 and elysian feature :)

read more about elysian project here :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71022

Changelog :
-----------
- Fast first pass if u use EHQ
- Added EHQ profil for 75 / 85 / 100
- replace ATRC audio codec by AAC and HE-AAC
- Add support for new RateControl
- Now use .RPJF file instead of .RPAD file
- Possibility to edit .RPJF file
- improve compressibility test
- improve autocrop
- bugfix and clean of the code

URL :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b1.zip

Enjoy !

Bye.

tiki4

19th February 2004, 09:07

Ha, AutoRV10, I knew it!

Thanks, DC, keep up the great work!

tiki4

hoola

19th February 2004, 13:58

Yayy.. It feels like X-mas time with all these new RV goodies and tools comming out. Thanks for this beta Dark-Cracker. I really enjoy your work and look foward to future tools. Dling now!! :)

Loyal RVx fan.

olorin

20th February 2004, 11:34

Great Dark-Cracker!!! A new version of my favo software :) Thank u for your time and effort!!!

Also a big thank you to Karl for his continuous work in making my favo codec better and better!!! :)

olorin

Dark-Cracker

21st February 2004, 03:33

hi,

a quick update to fix some silly bugs :
(replace old .exe with this from the archive file)

http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b1.1.zip

Bye.

Jerry_Sm@rt

21st February 2004, 08:01

Great job!
I've been waiting for a long time!

olorin

21st February 2004, 12:09

During the first pass producer says "Encoding: " in the cmd line window, with AutoRV9 it always said "Analysis: " or something during first pass. Why is this?

Dark-Cracker

21st February 2004, 18:08

@olorin
in fact now autorv10 encode each pass separately in order to save the .pass file and to use it later. so now during the 2 pass , producer print "Encoding".

Bye.

olorin

21st February 2004, 19:19

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
@olorin
in fact now autorv10 encode each pass separately in order to save the .pass file and to use it later. so now during the 2 pass , producer print "Encoding".

Does that mean Autorv10 does not use the "fast first pass" with EHQ 50? It seems like the two passes take equally long time here.

olorin

karl_lillevold

21st February 2004, 19:41

I made sure that when rcPassNumber is set to 1, complexity is set to 50. However, if then later in the audience this is reset with encoderComplexity, it is changed:

<rcPassNumber type="uint">1</rcPassNumber>
<encoderComplexity type="uint">85</encoderComplexity>

results in first pass at 85. This is probably what happened.

<encoderComplexity type="uint">85</encoderComplexity>
<rcPassNumber type="uint">1</rcPassNumber>

results in first pass at 50.

However, I am not sure the processing order of options is always the same. You can always check rv9log.txt to see which complexity was used.

I think I would suggest that for the first pass separate encoding, if possible, D-C should perhaps remove encoderComplexity from the audience.

hellfred

21st February 2004, 20:47

Hi D-C
Your porgram AutoRV10 v1.0b1 makes enconding to RV10 with the new rate control really easy. I like AutoRV10. One suggestion. Karl once noted that it is possible to suppress the output of an actual video in the first pass by adding a .null to the filename. See below. It would be nict to add this to AutoRV10, too.

How to avoid a large file output for 1st pass separate encoding
Tip: when running the first pass as a separate encoding, Producer does not know about this feature yet, and thinks that it is encoding normally. It will therefore output a large file corresponding to the reference encoding. To avoid this, call the output filename something that ends with .null, for instance filename.rmvb.null Then there will be no file output.

I hope you did not already add this to b1.1 and my note is meaningless.
Hellfred

Dark-Cracker

21st February 2004, 21:08

hi,

first pass is encoded at EHQ 50, second pass at the selected EHQ value. i have check the rv9log.txt file and all seems correct.

yep i must use the .null trick :) added in next release :)

Bye.

MictXP

21st February 2004, 22:15

For some reason, the credits and movie are not joined. The log file says:

The Logfile contains an unsupported codec. This file can not be edited.

Dark-Cracker

22nd February 2004, 00:04

hi,

yes for the moment rmeditor cannot merge credits / movie if u use aac for audio but the dll needed to solve this problem will be released in few days by realnetwork so for the moment we need wait.

++

damrod

22nd February 2004, 00:37

and if you use matroska container?

karl_lillevold

22nd February 2004, 00:52

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
yes for the moment rmeditor cannot merge credits / movie if u use aac for audio but the dll needed to solve this problem will be released in few days by realnetwork so for the moment we need wait.

And you need not wait long. Here it is:
https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30
Get the "rmeditor update for raac and racp", replace rmto3260.dll in the tools folder with this update. Merging raac and racp, when the two files have different bitrate settings, now works.

olorin

22nd February 2004, 21:01

Hi,

I got a much larger movie file than expected. I use autorv10 just as i used autorv9, 2pass. Chose 750Mb output file and got 1596Mb. What's wrong?

olorin

Dark-Cracker

22nd February 2004, 21:36

hi,

could u attanch the xxx_logfile.log file ? it contain the audience file used and other stuff.

Bye.

buzzqw

23rd February 2004, 08:32

Thanks DC !!!
Great Update !!
i encoded "Boondock Saints" (first film found :) ) and got exactly 699mb (and a over 1GB i think first pass rmvb...)
Truly great result, but in first place i cannot hear audio.
Searching on forum i found the Matroska pack and AAC audio decoder...
Please write somewhere that is needed aac audio decoder

BHH

olorin

23rd February 2004, 17:58

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
hi,

could u attanch the xxx_logfile.log file ? it contain the audience file used and other stuff.

Here it is. (The files couldn't be joined due to shortage of space. I had enough though to store a 1.5Gb file. Removed the credits audience)

Start loging !

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/21 11:50:05,0,"C:\files\video\REALVI~1\AUTORV~1.0_B\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -j c:\AutoRV9_Credit.rpjf -daw -lc e,d" command line being run
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:05,8050,--------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:05,8051,Input Filename: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Credit.avs
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:05,8052,File Size: 0KB
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:05,8053,Total Duration: 02:55.480
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:05,8080,Video Track
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:06,8081, Dimensions: 704 x 376
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:06,8082, Frame Rate: 25.000 FPS
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:06,8083, Format: YV12
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:06,8084, Duration: 02:55.480
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:50:06,8054,--------- End Input File Properties
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:50:06,0,Load Level Headings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:50:06,0,Using AutoRV9 Audience File Audience
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:50:06,0,Using video codec: rv10 (598000 bps)
,Diagnostic,Video Codec,2004/02/21 11:50:06,20049,Setting video packet size to 15000
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/21 11:59:44,7040,Finished Writing Volume ID 1.
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/21 11:59:44,7042,Finished writing RealMedia File.
,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/21 11:59:49,0,"C:\files\video\REALVI~1\AUTORV~1.0_B\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -j c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpjf -daw -lc e,d" command line being run
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8050,--------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8051,Input Filename: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Movie.avs
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8052,File Size: 0KB
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8053,Total Duration: 01:23:57.600
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8080,Video Track
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8081, Dimensions: 704 x 376
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8082, Frame Rate: 25.000 FPS
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8083, Format: YV12
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8084, Duration: 01:23:57.600
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 11:59:50,8054,--------- End Input File Properties
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:59:50,0,Load Level Headings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:59:50,0,Using AutoRV9 Audience File Audience
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 11:59:50,0,Using video codec: rv10 (1196000 bps)
,Diagnostic,Video Codec,2004/02/21 11:59:50,20049,Setting video packet size to 15000
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/21 20:15:51,7040,Finished Writing Volume ID 1.
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/21 20:15:51,7042,Finished writing RealMedia File.
,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/21 20:16:01,0,"C:\files\video\REALVI~1\AUTORV~1.0_B\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -j c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpjf -daw -lc e,d" command line being run
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8050,--------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8051,Input Filename: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Movie.avs
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8052,File Size: 0KB
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8053,Total Duration: 01:23:57.600
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8080,Video Track
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8081, Dimensions: 704 x 376
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8082, Frame Rate: 25.000 FPS
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8083, Format: YV12
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8084, Duration: 01:23:57.600
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/21 20:16:02,8054,--------- End Input File Properties
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 20:16:02,0,Load Level Headings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 20:16:02,0,Using AutoRV9 Audience File Audience
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/21 20:16:02,0,Using video codec: rv10 (1196000 bps)
,Diagnostic,Video Codec,2004/02/21 20:16:04,20049,Setting video packet size to 15000
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/22 03:51:34,7040,Finished Writing Volume ID 1.
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/22 03:51:34,7042,Finished writing RealMedia File.

Video Avisynth Script :

Movie Audience File .rpjf :

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<job xmlns="http://ns.real.com/tools/job.2.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<enableTwoPass type="bool">false</enableTwoPass>
<clipInfo>
<entry>
<name>Created with</name>
<value type="string">AutoRV9 (www.video-tools.com)</value>
</entry>
</clipInfo>
<input xsi:type="avFileInput">
<filename type="string">C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Movie.avs</filename>
</input>
<parOutputs>
<output>
<destinations>
<destination xsi:type="fileDestination">
<filename type="string">C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Movie.rmvb</filename>
</destination>
</destinations>
<mediaProfile>
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
<disableAudio type="bool">false</disableAudio>
<disableVideo type="bool">false</disableVideo>
<videoMode type="string">normal</videoMode>
<audienceRefs>
<audienceRef>AutoRV9 Audience File</audienceRef>
</audienceRefs>
</mediaProfile>
</output>
</parOutputs>
<audiences>
<audience>
<avgBitrate type="uint">1196000</avgBitrate>
<maxBitrate type="uint">5980000</maxBitrate>
<name type="string">AutoRV9 Audience File</name>
<streams>
<stream xsi:type="videoStream">
<pluginName type="string">rn-videocodec-realvideo</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">rv10</codecName>
<codecProperties type="bag">
<encoderComplexity type="uint">85</encoderComplexity>
<noisyEdgeFilter type="bool">false</noisyEdgeFilter>
<calcPSNR type="bool">true</calcPSNR>
<maxConsecutiveBFrames type="uint">3</maxConsecutiveBFrames>
<rcEnableCurveCompression type="bool">true</rcEnableCurveCompression>
<rcAnalysisFileName type="string">C:\realvideo.pass</rcAnalysisFileName>
<rcTargetVideoSize type="uint">768000</rcTargetVideoSize>
<rcPassNumber type="uint">2</rcPassNumber>
<inloopCutOffQuant type="uint">12</inloopCutOffQuant>
<inloopCutOffCompatible type="bool">false</inloopCutOffCompatible>
<inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant type="bool">false</inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant>
<customPacketSize type="uint">16000</customPacketSize>
</codecProperties>
<encodingType type="string">vbrBitrate</encodingType>
<quality type="uint">1</quality>
<maxStartupLatency type="double">60</maxStartupLatency>
<maxFrameRate type="double">25</maxFrameRate>
<maxKeyFrameInterval type="double">10</maxKeyFrameInterval>
<enableLossProtection type="bool">false</enableLossProtection>
</stream>
<stream xsi:type="audioStream">
<pluginName type="string">rn-audiocodec-realaudio</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">cook</codecName>
<codecFlavor type="uint">23</codecFlavor>
<streamContext type="bag">
<presentationType type="string">audio-video</presentationType>
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
</streamContext>
</stream>
</streams>
</audience>
</audiences>
</job>

Join Movie + Credits :

Log File: c:\AutoRV9_Join.log
Input File 1: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Movie.rmvb
Input File 2: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps_Credit.rmvb
Output File: C:\files\film\Kopps\kopps.rmvb

Error: The file could not be processed.
Please verify that there is adequate space on the
destination drive and in your system's temporary directory.
***********************************************

karl_lillevold

23rd February 2004, 18:03

olorin: it sounds like what you got is the first pass reference file. This is usually a very large file. Perhaps then you ran out of space for the 2nd pass, and lost the 2nd pass file, which was the right size. D-C plans to fix this in the next update, by adding .null to the output filename for the 1st pass. This will tell Producer not to output a file.

hoola

24th February 2004, 18:52

Hi. I may be doing something wrong. But when I encode a clip and choose EHQ= 65 none. It seems to encode at 85 very high. I have looked at several encodes and it did the same thing. I check the logs and it shows them being encoded at EHQ 85 very high instead of the chosen 65-none. I wouldnt have caught it but I noticed it was taking longer than usual to encode. Is this a bug or an I doing somethign wrong? I'm using autorv10 with the updated exe.

I just did a small test file and I can duplicate the problem everytime. here is test_logfile.log
____________________________________________________________________
Start loging !

Video Stream Log :

,Diagnostic,Command Line,2004/02/24 12:54:52,0,"C:\DOCUME~1\jamie\MYDOCU~1\cidial\autorv10\Softs\RP9_LI~1\producer.exe -j c:\AutoRV9_Movie.rpjf -daw -lc e,d" command line being run
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8050,--------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8051,Input Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\jamie\Desktop\test_Movie.avs
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8052,File Size: 0KB
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8053,Total Duration: 11.712
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8080,Video Track
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8081, Dimensions: 400 x 480
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8082, Frame Rate: 29.970 FPS
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8083, Format: YV12
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8084, Duration: 11.712
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8060,Audio Track
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8061, Channels: Stereo
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8062, Bit Depth: 16
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8063, SampleRate: 44100 Hz
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8064, Format: Uncompressed Audio
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8065, Duration: 11.712
,Diagnostic,File Reader,2004/02/24 12:54:53,8054,--------- End Input File Properties
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/24 12:54:53,0,Load Level Headings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/24 12:54:53,0,Using AutoRV9 Audience File Audience
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/24 12:54:53,0,Using video codec: rv10 (654900 bps)
,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/02/24 12:54:53,0,Using audio codec: cook (44100 bps)
,Diagnostic,Video Codec,2004/02/24 12:54:53,20049,Setting video packet size to 15000
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/24 12:56:03,7040,Finished Writing Volume ID 1.
,Diagnostic,File Output,2004/02/24 12:56:03,7042,Finished writing RealMedia File.

Video Avisynth Script :

Movie Audience File .rpjf :

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<job xmlns="http://ns.real.com/tools/job.2.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance">
<enableTwoPass type="bool">false</enableTwoPass>
<clipInfo>
<entry>
<name>Created with</name>
<value type="string">AutoRV9 (www.video-tools.com)</value>
</entry>
</clipInfo>
<input xsi:type="avFileInput">
<filename type="string">C:\Documents and Settings\jamie\Desktop\test_Movie.avs</filename>
</input>
<parOutputs>
<output>
<destinations>
<destination xsi:type="fileDestination">
<filename type="string">C:\Documents and Settings\jamie\Desktop\test.rmvb</filename>
</destination>
</destinations>
<mediaProfile>
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
<disableAudio type="bool">false</disableAudio>
<disableVideo type="bool">false</disableVideo>
<videoMode type="string">sharp</videoMode>
<audienceRefs>
<audienceRef>AutoRV9 Audience File</audienceRef>
</audienceRefs>
</mediaProfile>
</output>
</parOutputs>
<audiences>
<audience>
<avgBitrate type="uint">699000</avgBitrate>
<maxBitrate type="uint">3495000</maxBitrate>
<name type="string">AutoRV9 Audience File</name>
<streams>
<stream xsi:type="videoStream">
<pluginName type="string">rn-videocodec-realvideo</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">rv10</codecName>
<codecProperties type="bag">
<noisyEdgeFilter type="bool">false</noisyEdgeFilter>
<calcPSNR type="bool">true</calcPSNR>
<maxConsecutiveBFrames type="uint">3</maxConsecutiveBFrames>
<inloopCutOffQuant type="uint">12</inloopCutOffQuant>
<inloopCutOffCompatible type="bool">false</inloopCutOffCompatible>
<inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant type="bool">false</inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant>
<customPacketSize type="uint">16000</customPacketSize>
</codecProperties>
<encodingType type="string">vbrBitrate</encodingType>
<quality type="uint">1</quality>
<maxStartupLatency type="double">60</maxStartupLatency>
<maxFrameRate type="double">30</maxFrameRate>
<maxKeyFrameInterval type="double">10</maxKeyFrameInterval>
<enableLossProtection type="bool">false</enableLossProtection>
</stream>
<stream xsi:type="audioStream">
<pluginName type="string">rn-audiocodec-realaudio</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">cook</codecName>
<codecFlavor type="uint">23</codecFlavor>
<streamContext type="bag">
<presentationType type="string">audio-video</presentationType>
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
</streamContext>
</stream>
</streams>
</audience>
</audiences>
</job>

____________________________________________________________________

Here is my rv9log.txt file. I wont post the whole thing but you will get the point.
=======================================================
mes: 64
frd: 1
rda: 0
rdai: 1
hfe: 1
cpu_scal: 85
met: F
TR Q am PSNR Bits MiPSNR AvPSNR AvBits Fr.type
=======================================================
33 10 12016 43.52 110392 43.52 43.52 110392 Key 85
100 10 788 42.93 34880 42.93 43.23 72636 85
67 16 40 41.70 3992 41.70 42.72 49754 d 85
167 9 616 43.41 39736 41.70 42.89 47250 85
133 16 92 41.87 3704 41.70 42.69 38540 d 85
234 9 620 43.43 37808 41.70 42.81 38418 85
200 16 56 42.04 3912 41.70 42.70 33489 d 85
300 9 452 43.53 36040 41.70 42.80 33808 85
267 16 32 41.97 4240 41.70 42.71 30522 d 85
367 9 2956 43.21 70120 41.70 42.76 34482 85
334 15 180 41.35 8808 41.35 42.63 32148 d 85

thanks for your replys in advance.

Dark-Cracker

25th February 2004, 21:00

hi,

a little update :

Changelog :
-----------
- add KFboost , and hight/Low % (NEED LATEST ELYSIAN DLL)
- improved joblist
- fixed Audience editor
- no more huge file during first pass
- improved anamorphic resize
- update EHQ value (50 for endcredits , 65 as default)

URL :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b2.zip

Enjoy !

++

hoola

25th February 2004, 23:19

@Dark-Cracker
Thanks for the quick bug fixes. I really like autorv and appreciate the work you put into it!

:D :D :D THANK YOU :D :D :D

hoola

26th February 2004, 03:30

I can't get autorv10 to encode a 2 pass VBR. It goes to start the producer but does not encode 1st or second pass. one pass cbr/vbr and C quality seem to work fine.

karl_lillevold

26th February 2004, 03:35

hoola: Did you replace erv4.dll in softs/rp9_light/codecs with the one in rv10_elysian_022404.zip ? This is needed for the latest AutoRV10_v1.0b2. Otherwise you might get failures like you mention.

hoola

26th February 2004, 04:28

You were right. I didn't put it in when I rebuilt my folder on this machine. Everything works now.

Thanks!

snowcrash

7th March 2004, 03:01

Originally posted by MictXP
For some reason, the credits and movie are not joined. The log file says: The Logfile contains an unsupported codec. This file can not be edited.

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
hi,

yes for the moment rmeditor cannot merge credits / movie if u use aac for audio but the dll needed to solve this problem will be released in few days by realnetwork so for the moment we need wait.

++

Well, I encoded a movie a couple weeks ago using AutoRV10 beta1 and the movie and credits did not get joined. I did not use AAC audio, just regular real audio. Both videos play fine but when I try to join them with rmeditor, I get this:

Error: The input file contains an unsupported codec.
This file can not be edited.

Is there any way I can join these? I really don't want to reencode the whole thing. Thanks.

snowcrash

7th March 2004, 03:10

Originally posted by karl_lillevold
And you need not wait long. Here it is:
https://helixcommunity.org/project/showfiles.php?group_id=30
Get the "rmeditor update for raac and racp", replace rmto3260.dll in the tools folder with this update. Merging raac and racp, when the two files have different bitrate settings, now works.

I wanted to try this new version of rmeditor but I can't find it. It's not on the page you linked to.

karl_lillevold

7th March 2004, 03:34

Sorry, I thought I had fixed all the links, after the download location changed. Try here instead:
https://helixcommunity.org/beula/download/

snowcrash

7th March 2004, 14:36

Cool, the new rmeditor DLL fixed my problem. Thanks.

iradic

10th March 2004, 19:33

hi just dloaded autorv10 with update... had some problems with ocx but i dloaded them and now works fine...

some question about updates from helix com:
do i need to replace all dll in codec dir and apply reg file to work with new features... also there is aac and aacplus update - what about those...
and of course rmediator update (read before in thred about need to update)...

thanks for help...

karl_lillevold

10th March 2004, 19:51

Hi iradic, I also saw your other thread...
AutoRV10 includes everything you need, except you should replace the RealVideo 10 encoder DLL erv4.dll with the latest from the helix community, as well as the rmeditor DLL rmto3260.dll to fix the merging AAC files problem. I don't foresee any large changes now, so I am looking forward to a new AutoRV10 update with everything included.

AutoRV10 uses the new rate control by default, even though it has no setting for it. After you have started a new encoding, check the AutoRV10 generated job file, and you will see it has inserted all the necessary audience settings. No registry entries are needed.

iradic

12th March 2004, 01:45

hi, did some tests and results are pretty good...

but i have strange bug in autorv10 ... sometimes (not always) when exiting program it crashes and i get error msg (kernel32.dll) and i need to restart comp (error msg box -> close -> new error msg box - this is irritating) ... everything else works fine (encoding process)...
another thing is - exiting program (windows closing animation) is really ugly (maybe is related to error)...
when istalling autorv i dloaded some missing ocx files... maybe this is the problem... dont know...

i was looking autorv job file and in enable two pass value is false ... (i presume this is ok 'cause encoder did two passes)...

hellfred

12th March 2004, 12:30

Originally posted by iradic

i was looking autorv job file and in enable two pass value is false ... (i presume this is ok 'cause encoder did two passes)...
Yes, that is true. AutoRV will edit the jobfile between the two passes, changing
<rcPassNumber type="uint">1</rcPassNumber>
to
<rcPassNumber type="uint">1</rcPassNumber>
for the second pass!
But luckily it does not change e.g. the audio stream settings, so that you can Add a job, tune the used audio codec and flavoure (e.g. racp 0) by hand editing the jobfile and then start encoding by pressing the button. For some reason editing the jobfile form within AutoRV10 will not change the jobfile.

Hellfred

DanielSun

14th March 2004, 14:46

Sorry to say that ,but i had peoblems in downloading AutoRV10.
Does anyone have a mirror?

Regards
Danielsun

karl_lillevold

21st March 2004, 17:44

I had to install AutoRV10 on a clean system last night, and thought it would be useful to summarize everything that was needed, because it is quite a long list...

1) Find AutoRV10. First I followed 1st post advice "(www.dark-angel.does.it (go in the download section)". However, it has no AutoRV10. Only 9... But I was really not looking too well, because further down in the same post are the actual downloads.

2) Download and unzip AutoRV10_v1.0_b1.zip (http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b1.zip)

3) Download and unzip AutoRV10_v1.0_b2.zip (http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b2.zip). Just the updated .exe

3) Goto Helix Binary Downloads (https://helixcommunity.org/beula/download/)
Download and replace latest RV10 'Elysian' erv4.dll.
Download and replace rnaudiocodec.dll
Download and replace rmeditor rmto3260.dll

4) Start AutoRV10. Find that a few VB6 DLLs are missing. Find and install: comctl32.ocx, mscomct2.ocx, mscomctl.ocx, tabctl32.ocx

5) Download and install DVD2AVI 1.76

6) Download and install Avisynth 2.54

7) Finally ready to encode!

8) To play back resulting encode, go back to Helix Binary Downloads and get RealPlayer 10 HE-AAC (racp) fix.

Hmm, I think that was about it. When AutoRV10 Final is ready, it will include all the latest DLLs as well as VB6 DLLs I think. And RealPlayer 10 Final will of course include the HE-AAC fix. This will simplify the process.

tiki4

21st March 2004, 19:19

Hi Karl,

I think you forgot one little thing: one may replace also the Real Video codec of Real Player 10 with the one from the Elysian package in order to get the HFE enabled version. Also I'd recommend getting the fixed DVD2AVI from Donald Graft's site (neuron2.net) and replace the mpeg2dec3.dll with the fixed one by Donald (no more lost frames). And also I think easiest method to get all the VB6 files is just to install AutoRV9 in parallel. They don't hurt each other and the installer registers all those files you mentioned.

Thanks for your continuing support.

Cheers,

tiki4

karl_lillevold

21st March 2004, 22:56

tiki4: Thanks, I left out the HFE decoder (to simplify a little :p), but it is recommended, you are right. I did not know about those DVD2AVI and mpeg2dec3 fixes, so I tried to get them but it seems Donald Graft has had his neuron2.net account suspended...

Dark-Cracker

23rd March 2004, 09:10

hi,

thank u karl for this summarize of all step needed to use the autorv10 beta :)

autorv10 was not in the download section on www.video-tools.com because it was still in beta version (but u can find it in the beta section in the forum of my siteweb but u must first register on the forum). for the vb6 runtime u can find a pack with all .ocx file needed in the "other" download section.

i will try to post a new version this weekend with a lot of improvement and all the dll needed.

Ps: i will also update all the avisynth filers.

++

uaco72

23rd March 2004, 11:39

Originally posted by tiki4
Hi Karl,

I think you forgot one little thing: one may replace also the Real Video codec of Real Player 10 with the one from the Elysian package in order to get the HFE enabled version...

Where can I find HFE Elysian package??
thanks

karl_lillevold

23rd March 2004, 17:49

The RealVideo sticky points to the RV10 Elysian thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71022).

superdump

24th March 2004, 20:27

Originally posted by karl_lillevold
tiki4: Thanks, I left out the HFE decoder (to simplify a little :p), but it is recommended, you are right. I did not know about those DVD2AVI and mpeg2dec3 fixes, so I tried to get them but it seems Donald Graft has had his neuron2.net account suspended...

You can get them from the download section of doom9.org :)

Big_Berny

1st April 2004, 13:15

Hi,
yesterday I tested the beta2 and began to encode a movie (PeterPan 73minutes) with the setting of the rv10-thread. After 14 hours it had only made the first pass and 10 minutes of the second pass!
So I think that it would be very practicle if we could do the two passes separetley! Then I could let it work only during the nights!

Greets
Big_Berny

Sirber

1st April 2004, 14:10

* why not setting producer to IDLE so it doesn't botter other process during the day?

* why not upgrading your hardware so you could encode in 4h? :D

Dark-Cracker

1st April 2004, 15:48

@big_berny

hi,

yes i am working on the possibility to resume the second pass :) don't be afraid it's not a complicated feature to add :)
wait the next release (i hope i will find time to add it in next release, else it's on my wishlist :) ).

Stay tuned :)

Ps : which cpu and frequency do u have ?

++

Big_Berny

1st April 2004, 18:31

I have a AMD Thunderbird C 1.2GHz

iradic

2nd April 2004, 15:13

hi...

is it possible to have mono sound?
(maybe someone can explain how to edit job file...)

thanks

Sirber

12th April 2004, 15:12

,Diagnostic,SDK Encoding,2004/04/11 23:24:46,0,Using video codec: rv10 (3254000 bps)
,Error,Video Codec,2004/04/11 23:24:46,0,Failed to Set Property: Key rcHighBitrateReduce Value 0
,Diagnostic,Video Codec,2004/04/11 23:24:46,20049,Setting video packet size to 0
,Error,Video Codec,2004/04/11 23:24:46,0,Failed to initialize video codec 04VR
,Error,SDK Encoding,2004/04/11 23:24:46,15001,Job failed to start encoding
,Error,Command Line,2004/04/11 23:24:46,10536,Encoding failed!

getting those errors for the main movie :(

[edit]

After moving the incorrect flag, I get this:

C:\Documents and Settings\sirber>"C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\producer.exe" -j E:\Films\God\1_Movie.rpjf -lc "w,i,e,d"
Diagnostic: "C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV10\Softs\Rp9_Light\pr
oducer.exe -j E:\Films\God\1_Movie.rpjf -lc w,i,e,d" command line being run
Helix DNA(TM) Producer 10.0 Preview Build number: 10.0.0.74
Initializing Errors: 0 Warnings: 0

***************************************************
2004/04/12 09:13:33
Exception code: C0000005
Fault address: 600C443A 01:0006343A C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\Aut
oRV10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll

Call stack:
Address Frame Logical addr Module
600C443A 0012FD54 0001:0006343A C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
600BBF37 0012FD70 0001:0005AF37 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
600BA0D7 0012FD98 0001:000590D7 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
600B9F7E 0012FDC4 0001:00058F7E C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
6007DC10 0012FE98 0001:0001CC10 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
60080F51 0012FED0 0001:0001FF51 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
600834E8 0012FEF4 0001:000224E8 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\tools\encsession.dll
0040A8D4 0012FF34 0001:000098D4 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\producer.exe
00402482 0012FF4C 0001:00001482 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\producer.exe
0041CCA7 0012FFC0 0001:0001BCA7 C:\Documents and Settings\sirber\Bureau\AutoRV
10\Softs\Rp9_Light\producer.exe
77E614C7 0012FFF0 0001:000204C7 C:\WINDOWS\system32\kernel32.dll
***************************************************

:(

Dark-Cracker

12th April 2004, 21:23

hi,

generaly when u have the error : "Failed to Set Property: Key rcHighBitrateReduce Value 0 " it's because u have the wrong erv4.dll file , are u sure u have updated it ? i think yes because u know how to use rv10 :)

i have found this on google but apparently the url have changed on the helix bug report list.

http://lists.helixcommunity.org/pipermail/helix-producer-issues/2003-December/001941.html

sorry i have no idear why u have this crash.

++

Sirber

12th April 2004, 23:20

hum. I thought the betas had the lastest DLL. My mistake. I edited the jobfile and it works now. About the crash, I removed the separate credits and now it encode perfectly. I had the same crash with my own soft (SDK-based). A bug report will be submited as soon as I can log into HC :) Thanks for your time :D

Sirber

13th April 2004, 13:07

Bug about FPS:

RealVideo Rate Control 2nd pass log:
Framerate: 30000/1000 = 30.000000 fps
Total number of frames: 252444
Target filesize: -415236096 bytes
Container format overhead: 0.000000 %
Num Type Quant Size Scaled Target Actual Error OFlow

My source is 23.976. Producer has to be upadted to the lastest version in order to fix this bug.

karl_lillevold

13th April 2004, 16:35

AutoRV10 does not use framerate, so it's okay to have a Producer that does not have the framerate bugfix. However, there appears to be a problem with the filesize as well.
1) It looks like an 4GB overflow problem in the filesize calculation somewhere, either in AutoRV10, the audience XML reader, or the codec's rate control itself.
2) Even if 1) had worked, the resulting file would not have been playable, since the RM fileformat has a 4 GB filesize limitation.

Are there any filesize limitations with Matroska?

EDIT: also, it turns out rmeditor has a 2GB filesize limit, since it's based on an older codebase than Producer and RealPlayer.

iradic

14th April 2004, 09:58

hi...

is this a bug - when under subtitles you press "advanced" (but you didnt opened srt file) autorv10 crashes...

also if i use audio within video.avs i suppose producer will recognize audio, but what about video bitrate settings in autorv... i guess they are not reduced to store audio and hit target size?

thanks

Dark-Cracker

14th April 2004, 14:15

hi,

thanks for the bug report :) i will fix this problem in the subtitle panel.

for the audio in .avs file for the moment , u need to select the audio file in the audio tab, i am working on an autodetection if the .avs file have or not an audio stream.
wait next release for this :)

++

Dark-Cracker

20th April 2004, 05:53

hi,

i am not sure if it's a good idear to release this version because i still add a lot of features, and i have made a quick build just to ensure that autorv10 was not dead :)

i have clean / re-write a part of the code , and i have only few free time (i am still a student :) ) so there is some feature temporaly removed/disable in this alpha version but all will be fine in the next stable version :)

Changelog :
-----------
- added graphical menu.
- add the possibility to encode in Quality mode.
- add support for the prefilter DUP / Blackfilter.
- add a complete RV10 new rate functions.
- improve accurate final size in 2 pass mode.
- add an autocal. function for the inloop quantizer
- add an autocal. function for the hight/low %
- add support for unicode in the path and tag name.
- added some restrictions on the illegal character in path.
- fix the different bugs reported.

to do list :
------------
- finish to build/improve the graphical menu.
- finish to add the copy from DVD to HD function.
- finish to add the subtitle panel.

URL :
-----
file size : 3.4 MB
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b3_alpha.zip

Warning !!! it's an alpha version some DEBUG msgbox appear beetween each pass so don't use this version for a full encode !!! .

PS : any feedback on the autocalculation are welcome, think to post value, and feelings if u have a problems with the final result.

Bye.

karl_lillevold

21st April 2004, 01:22

Great new appearance! and the Advanced settings for the Codec look very promising. Presets to auto-scale the curve for RC, and automatic calculation of inloopCutoffQuant, both from the .pass file! I am happy to see contributions to the new rate control settings that improve RealVideo quality further, that was part of the reason so many parameters were made available to adjust, as well as using the same .pass file format as XviD.

iradic

21st April 2004, 16:56

got this error after finished 2-pas encoding (before re-opens autorv window)

Error d'execution 76.
Chemin d'access introuvable.

file plays fine...

Dark-Cracker

21st April 2004, 17:18

at the end of the second pass it display avg PSNR by reading the rv9log.txt file perhaps autorv10 doesn't have found this file in your folder. normaly your encoding .rmvb file should be in the directory.

i will add a check if the rv9log.txt file exist before trying to open it this bug should be fixed in the next version.

thanks for the bug report :)

Bye.

iradic

21st April 2004, 20:14

i think you should first check does PSNR values exist :) - i disabled calculating psnr (set it to false in audience file)...

also i was using "light" preset and target size of 10 mb - resulting file is 5,7 mb - is this normal?

another thing is that autorv10 window size is not full (exit btn is a little bit out of window) and i cant resize window to get exit button showed at its whole size... although it seems you r working on it (resize arrows are there)...

Dark-Cracker

21st April 2004, 20:37

hi,

yes i will fix the bug to check if the file exist before trying to open it i have use this msgbox to debug and have some value to made some tweak on the settings. i will release a new version soon without the undersize problem. for the moment disable the autocalc high/Low % to avoid problems.

for the button it's normal i still not have fully finish the graphical settings in my tool :)

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

22nd April 2004, 04:53

hi,

a quick build with the fix of all the bugs reported.
i have also improved the autocalculation of high / Low % .

url :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b3_alphafix.zip

enjoy !

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

22nd April 2004, 19:30

hi,

i have made some quick tests with the latest alpha fix version.

here are my result on the *experimental* function (autocalc high and low %).

i have only tested on 2 sort sample (15 Mb and 30 Mb for the output size). of course rate control on short sample are not revelant but i have no time to made long tests, so if u want to made more tests feel free :) i will try to made some SSIMQ tests if i found time.

* Sample 1 : Low motion

Preset name | High % | Low % | PNSR
-------------------------------------
Default | 0 | 0 | 39.07
Light | 44 | 39 | 39.07
Medium | 36 | 39 | 39.17
Strong | 34 | 29 | 39.04

* Sample 2 : High Motion

Preset name | High % | Low % | PNSR
-------------------------------------
Default | 0 | 0 | 43.92
Light | 56 | 41 | 44.07
Medium | 55 | 41 | 44.08
Strong | 51 | 41 | 44.34

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

22nd April 2004, 23:53

hi,

i have reuploaded the update .zip file, i have improve the autocal high and low %. i have remove the msgbox now the pnsr, used inloop cuttoff quant and high low % used are now stored in the file temp_PSNR_Log.txt,temp_PSNR_Log_1.txt,...,temp_PSNR_Log_5.txt

if u have some strange result (undersized or oversized finalfile).
think to post if u have used presets and post the temp_PSNR_log file.

url :
-----
see the previous post.

Bye.

iradic

23rd April 2004, 02:08

hi

noticed this:
1) set all settings
2) add job -> edit avs -> bicubicresize....
3) cancel
4) change bicubic under video to lanczos
5) add job -> edit avs -> bicubicresize ?!

i didnt wanted to edit script so i deleted that script (not exiting autorv) -> add job -> autorv crashes...
autorv should collect settings from program when add job is pressed, not read avs

also whats the real use of "limiter" filter - compressibility or correcting output ?

Dark-Cracker

23rd April 2004, 03:10

hi,

i am rewritting the function who generate files (.avs for exemple) so for the moment if u try to change a filter after a preview (who generate the file) all other modification (for exemple changing resize filter) will no be taken. wait the next release the time i rewritte the functions.

here is the description of the limiter function :

-----
The standard known as CCIR-601 defines the range of pixel values considered legal for presenting on a TV. These ranges are 16-235 for the luma component and 16-240 for the chroma component.

Pixels outside this range are known to cause problems with some TV sets, and thus it is best to remove them before encoding if that is your intended display device. By default this filter clips (or "clamps") pixels under 16 to 16 and over 235 (or 240) to 235 (or 240).
-----

Bye.

DanielSun

25th April 2004, 14:38

@Dark-Cracker

Would you please add a function that allows users to fill in the desired video bitrate as long as the desired file size please?

I've been waiting for that for a long time.

Greetings.
DanielSun.

Dark-Cracker

25th April 2004, 16:27

hi,

yes i will try to add this feature (if i find a free space in my video panel :) ) but i still have others options to add before so plz wait :) and stay tuned :)

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

30th April 2004, 22:20

hi,

a quick build :)

- fix a possible problem of overflow in autocal for high/Low % on some extralong movie.
- improve the .pass parser (avoid to wait beetween each pass).
- improve the high/low caculation and improve the high preset.

url :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b3_alphafix.zip

if u are interested here are some quick tests on the presets :

PRESET / PSNR

- default 41.52
- low 41.72
- medium 41.69
- high 41.65

Bye.

nah

3rd May 2004, 17:10

Hello,

Just test the alphafix but on a PC without sound card. So it doesn't work. How could I desactivate this check ?
the b2 works without sound card.

AutoRV10 will become my favorite GUI (before I used X2Real).

Dark-Cracker

5th May 2004, 11:31

hi,

in fact i have add a check on the soundcard because producer use directsoundoutput to encode the audio stream, and if u don't have a sound card it will show u an error.
perhaps this problem with producer have been fixed ?
i will made u a new version with just a warning msgbox and u will have the possibility to use autorv10.

PS : test with the .exe in the beta3 (not the alpha fix who have this limitation). and try to encode a sample with video+audio and if u can made an encode i will remove this limitation.

PS : if u have an error think to paste the producer.log file (it's copied in the xxx_LogFile.txt file).

++

meditate2

6th May 2004, 10:21

hello dark-cracker,

first thanks for that AWESOME tool ! Its just great !!! My #1.

second: if i compare encoding speed with (pretty much) all filters on,
rv10 is sooooo much faster than rv9. (even more than 30% as karl said)
so are all the filters really included in the encoding process in this alpha ?

greetings,
meditate

Dark-Cracker

6th May 2004, 10:36

hi,

i am updating the avisynth filter part (ready in next release i think).

in the new filters in the next version the filters used will be :

- remove of dtc/cnr2/nipsmooth/teamporalcleaner

- add of : dup/bifrost/ivtc2/alignfield/smartDecimate

and the possibility to made a dynamic cleaning (depend of the motion of the film) using fluxsmooth and convolution3D.

i will try to release a new version this week.

i have soon finish the dvdripping panel (using DVDdecrypter+DVD2AVI), and i work actually on the subtitle panel :)

stay tuned :)

Bye.

ookzDVD

7th May 2004, 03:43

@DC,

Thank you for your time :)
Btw, is that possible to disable the EHQ mode ?
(I prefer to do simple encode, no EHQ).

Thank you.

tiki4

7th May 2004, 09:39

Some minor suggestions on the Avisynth part:

1. It would be nice to replace the old DVD2AVI/MPEG2dec3 combo with DVD2AVI Donald Graft version.

2. Decomb / VSFilter update.

3. BeSweet / BeSweet.dll could be updated to current builds.

Also I'd have a suggestion about the audio transcoding part:

When transcoding 2x AC3 to 5.1 Cook (or DTS + AC3 to 5.1 Cook), all temporal WAV files do not get deleted. This eats up a lot of hard disk space. I think the files are no longer needed when the final .rm file has been encoded, so they could get deleted to make room for the next audio files and then for the video part.

Nevertheless, I like the new version and I'm really looking forward for integrated OCR (?).

tiki4

victorhooi

7th May 2004, 10:05

Any chance of allowing us to specify lower bitrates and mono sound?

I've found that I tend to notice lower quality sound a lot less than video (although I might be a bit biased, seeing as I'm slightly hard-of-hearing =) ). With AutoRV9/10, I basically ripped and encoded the sound separately (MP4), and then muxed it with MKVtoolnix. But it would be great if I could encode the sound using Real Codecs inside of RV10 at, say, 40 kbps and mono.

Thanks,
Victor

Dark-Cracker

7th May 2004, 18:12

hi,

@ookzDVD
for the moment i have disable the possibility to save your previous settings so i will try to enable it in next version so if u want to encode without EHQ once u will set the combo on 60 it will save it as default for the next time u will run autorv10 it will have the combo on 60. i hope it's what u want :)

@tiki4
yep no problem the avisynth filters/and besweet will be updated just let me the time to work on it :)
yes i must improve the audio part when u made multi audio stream.

for the OCR in fact i have add the detection of subtitles in the .ifo file , and i have soon finish the possibility to made a preview of the vobsubfile and for OCR in fact it will use latest Subrip version.

@victorhooi
hum i will perhaps add some low bitrate support but i really hope realnetwork will add more bitrate for the HE-AAC , but i will try to see what i can do :)

PS : post the bitrate wanted with the flavor number and if it's mono or stereo. i will see if i can add them in next version.

++

tiki4

7th May 2004, 18:18

wata

7th May 2004, 18:51

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker

PS : post the bitrate wanted with the flavor number and if it's mono or stereo. i will see if i can add them in next version.

++ [/B]

hi,
could you include these in the audio selections

64 Kbps Voice - RealAudio cook 14 44.1 kHz RealPlayer G2

(all my video capture are mono, so i require this option)
plus

RealAuido Lossless Codec

thanks.

victorhooi

8th May 2004, 05:51

Thanks for replying =).

Before, I used the Nero AAC plugin to encode a mono file at a really low bitrate (around 20 - 30 kbps, sorry, can't remember exact figure, but I believe the plugin dialogue has a slider to set bitrate anyway). I haven't tried Realaudio codecs, but I think any of the following would work :

20 Kbps Music - RealAudio cook 3 22.05 kHz RealPlayer G2
20 Kbps Music High Response - RealAudio cook 15 44.1 kHz RealPlayer G2
32 Kbps Music - RealAudio cook 4 44.1 kHz RealPlayer G2
32 Kbps Music High Response - RealAudio cook 16 44.1 kHz RealPlayer G2

I'm not sure which would be best, though. The movie is fairly high on dialogue, so perhaps a voice codec would be better. Advice?

16 Kbps Voice - RealAudio sipr 3 16 kHz RealPlayer 5
32 Kbps Voice - RealAudio cook 7 22.05 kHz RealPlayer G2

Thanks,
Victor

PS: Additional info at
https://producerapps.helixcommunity.org/cmdproducer/docs/AudienceFile.htm
http://service.real.com/help/library/guides/helixproducer/htmfiles/app_code.htm

PPS: Cool, I figured out how to use 'CODE' tags =)

Dark-Cracker

15th May 2004, 17:01

hi,

i have release the new beta 4 :

- panel ripping (using dvddecrypter).
- possibility to extract chapters.
- possibility to extract raw subtitles.
- add chapters in rmvb header.
- grab chapter name on the internet.
- updated besweet / mpeg2dec3.dll / dvd2avi rc7.
- support new format of .d2v file.
- updating the menu icones.
- fixed all the bug reported.

URL :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/AutoRV10_v1.0_b4.zip

HOW to use chapters :
---------------------

- if u have not extract your chapters simply select your .ifo file (copied on your hard disk when u have backup your .vob files) in the autorv10 subtitle panel, select your movie chain, and click on "extract" button (it use the chapter OGG format to save them).

- if u have already extracted your chapters select it in the chapter textbox (it support microdvd, svcd , bsplayer , dvdmaestro, ogg, vcd easy, matroska chapter format).

- u can change the name by clicking on the "change name" button, u can made an internet search to find the chapters name (only in english) or u can click on the first chapter and directely type the name.

once it's made u can start the encode and if u have select Directshow mode to play the .rmvb file u will see them.
it's also work on all the player using directshow (mplayer2, bsplayer ....)

i post a little picture of my sample :
http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/chapters.jpg

Bye.

Valky

15th May 2004, 18:06

Aargh! Why does it need avisynth 2.5.5? Just yesterday I finally installed 2.5.4 and now I have to install some alpha version? Is it even safe?

And it says 'you need at least 2.5.5' so is there some even more newer versions somewhere since I couldn't find them in official avisynth page?

Ok. There some more bugs. I can't resize the program window and I really dont know what should read on the right-bottom button?

http://students.turkuai.fi/users/toviital/temp/error.jpg

Dark-Cracker

15th May 2004, 19:20

hi,

@valky
in fact u need the avisynth version 2.5.5 because there is a writefile function who have been added and without this version u can't use the analyze video function. even if v2.5.5 is still in beta stage, it's very stable.

u can download the latest version here : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/avisynth2/AviSynth_200304.exe?download

in fact it's still a beta version and the button u can't see it's not working :) it was the exit button i will arrange the buttons, label ... once i will finish to implement all the new function.

Ps : don't click on the "command1" button i use it to debug some function and i have forget to hide it :) .
sorry i really made some crap beta release :)

Bye.

Valky

16th May 2004, 14:16

If I use my own avs as a source file and I use bilinearresize there, does your program use them at all cause Autorv10 makes it's own avs-files and there is used bicubicresize? I wonder if it skips all the other filters in my avs-script also?

iradic

16th May 2004, 16:50

hi, one suggestion for anamorphic encoding...

in job file you're setting display size - not ar -> so you can encode at any res you want -> it would be nice if we can set this custom res

why? i find that encoding at 16:9 stretches picture too much (i can see this when playing file) so i always set a little bit higher res manually in avs script -> this option would help me and maybe some others...

thanks...

Valky

17th May 2004, 12:31

Well, I have made two excellent encoding now with this latest build. Both filesizes were very accurate 233mb, but unfortunately I couldn't manage to do 2 encodings during the night. First one, was ok, but the second file is missing?

It made the .task, .log, and .rpjf files to the second file also, but no video.

hellfred

18th May 2004, 10:17

Originally posted by Valky
If I use my own avs as a source file and I use bilinearresize there, does your program use them at all cause Autorv10 makes it's own avs-files and there is used bicubicresize? I wonder if it skips all the other filters in my avs-script also?
I think that all the frames are send through the frameserver twice. Firsts framserver processes the frames according to your avs script, and handels those frames to the second frameserver running the script from AutoRV10.
Have a look at the resize command in the avs of AutoRV10. Does it actually resize?
If you fear that some of the settings in that avs script will decrease your picture quality and unnecessarily increase encoding time, just delete them. I usually edit the files between adding the job and actually running it.

Hellfred

tiki4

18th May 2004, 12:19

At least earlier versions of AutoRV10 just imported the source script into the Avisynth script. I think that only one instance of Avisynth is running that way. AFAIK resizers do nothing if input size = output size, but maybe one has to ask Sh0dan.

tiki4

Valky

18th May 2004, 13:47

Originally posted by Valky
Well, I have made two excellent encoding now with this latest build. Both filesizes were very accurate 233mb, but unfortunately I couldn't manage to do 2 encodings during the night. First one, was ok, but the second file is missing?

It made the .task, .log, and .rpjf files to the second file also, but no video.

Last night I tried again to make two encoding jobs during the night. This time something went horrible wrong even with the first one which was 100min movie. The filesize was only 542mb and the file is not playable. My audiofile was supposed to be 160kbs so I believe it failed to do that at all and audio is missing in that file.
The second job failed again. Is this because of that error-message after every encoding?

Ok, I give up. Last night I tried again to encode whole movie with it and again the file is only 546 and not playable. This time I had my wav inside the avs-script and everything seems to be fine with little test version using trim.

I also noticed that this program suffocated my C:\? My encoding happens in drive E:\ where I have space and I think one time this encoding failed cause it couldn't have enough space in drive C:?

tiki4

19th May 2004, 16:39

Nope, Valky,

AutoRV10 just writes some small script and logfiles, maybe a few MB altogether, to your C:\ drive. Did you test your AVS files in VirtualDub(Mod) or WMP before you imported them to AutoRV10? Check your setup one again, and also check the AVS AutoRV10 writes to your harddisk. Maybe some resizing goes horribly wrong. Last thing: Make sure you provide YV12 input to producer.exe.

tiki4

Valky

19th May 2004, 17:57

Originally posted by tiki4
Nope, Valky,

AutoRV10 just writes some small script and logfiles, maybe a few MB altogether, to your C:\ drive. Did you test your AVS files in VirtualDub(Mod) or WMP before you imported them to AutoRV10? Check your setup one again, and also check the AVS AutoRV10 writes to your harddisk. Maybe some resizing goes horribly wrong. Last thing: Make sure you provide YV12 input to producer.exe.

tiki4

Of course I tested them many times. And I even made a workin divx file with the same script so that's why I am wondering whats wrong. Btw, is it somewhere possible to see how long the whole process took time?

Dark-Cracker

20th May 2004, 16:03

hi,

sorry for my late answer i was during 1 week without internet and under exams in my school :(

hum i think it's perhaps my function to change the tempory directory who was broken , this can explain why u don't have obtain the final file, and that it have use C:\ instead of D:\ .
i will made a new release i think this will solve the problem.
sorry :(

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

20th May 2004, 19:25

hi,

just a quick hello to post a link for an english guide on the autorv10 beta version.

http://dark.pluridis.org/~darkangel/autorv10_guide/AutoRv10.htm

feel free to post comment and suggestions on this guide.

enjoy :)
++

victorhooi

21st May 2004, 09:13

Nice guide, simple enough for me to understand, yet it seems to cover all the bases (just one small typo at bottom, he referred to AutoRV9 by mistake).

BTW, does anyone know if RV10 is going Gold?

Also, Dark-Cracker, will you be making a non-debug release?

Finally, can you include an option for low bitrate, say 20 or 32 kbps mono soundtracks (I posted some info on page 20).

Great program, keep it up (I'd be happy to contribute if I can, though I can't code - documentation/testing?)

Thanks,
Victor

Dark-Cracker

21st May 2004, 12:12

hi,

i think once rv10 will finish his beta test there will probably have 2 versions 1 basic (free) and 1 gold (not free).

>Also, Dark-Cracker, will you be making a non-debug release?

once my beta tests will be finish u will have a non-debug release, until the final build u will have partially working beta version :) :) :) .

i have not start to change the audio panel but once i will work on it i will try to add lower bitrate and mono.

thank u :) as always if u want help me try to made different test on the software and report me the bugs or imprevements :)

Bye.

Valky

24th May 2004, 01:50

Btw, I just want to ask that does it matter if I have my Wav already inside the avs-script or if I add it manually from the audio table? Like I have already mentioned, I haven't been able to do fullsize 700mb movie with this latest release, because of some kind of bug, but normally?

I have now made many 233mb tv-episodes with separate wav, but maby wav inside the avs-script works also?

And my wavs I encode using your own Besweet_Gui_light which is excellent software for RM-encoding.

Dark-Cracker

24th May 2004, 11:42

hi,

for the moment if the audio stream is in the .avs file it will be ignored during the encoding, i must add support for avs file with audio in next release.
for the moment add manually the .wav using the audio panel.

++

25th May 2004, 00:01

I love b4 : )

Just wondering if other people have such high PF deltas with producer.exe on a 512MB machine. Or is it just my configuation -> optimised for background tasks, conservative swap usege and kernel cacheing?

Screen Shot (http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~cattz/task%20mngr.jpg)

26th May 2004, 12:38

Runtime error '9': Subscript out of range

I get this error consistantly doing batch encodes. With the vobs and d2v files togeather in separate dirs for each encode.

-----------------------------------------------------------
IDCT p3 / AMD

PAL, 16/9, neutral bicubic, anamorphic,

Deinterlace Decomb (hybrid), undot

Two pass vbr, normal motion, EHQ=100

Process Priority idle.
----------------------------------------------------------

win xp sp1

Autorv10 b4

AviSynth_200304.exe (2.55 alpha)

%50 free space in riping partition.

meditate2

26th May 2004, 13:47

Nice guide !

My suggestion would be, for people(like me) with less technic-knowledge would explain also the alternate options.
For example:

Where are the differences in the Video modes(at the Pass-Settings)
Or what in the hell is "max. Consecutive BF" ?(at frame settings.)
Or the advance settings...i only understand the prefilters, but the rest, i dont even know whats going on there :(

Can any1 tell me something about this anyway ?

tnx,
meditate

Dark-Cracker

26th May 2004, 14:45

@ #2
i have succeded to reproduce this bug it will be fixed in next release.
thank u for the bug report.

@meditate2

the pass settings are : in 1 pass cbr u made constant bitrate , quality is linear but the final size is accurate.
1 pass VBR , the bitrate is variable and the final size is not really accured. 1 pass quality instead of using the bitrate the quantizer is used , final size is really really not accurate.

2 pass vbr , final size is perfect.

for B-frame (bidirectionnal frame) i suggest u to search in the forum for a more technical description :)

Bye.

meditate2

26th May 2004, 17:33

@dc,
thanks for explanation.but i know about the pass modes, but i meant the videomode(sharpest motion, normal motion etc..) where are the differences and what is it good for(anime etc..)

I understand the drop-dupe prefilter from the realprod.
but where is the difference between that and the "DUP"-filter in the filter tab ? Also it would be nice it the guide to see some explanation about the filter and their results on different material.

Also what is an in-loop filter ? Or "enable-loss-protection" ? and the presets at the curve compressions ?

And prob. a bug: if i switch "undot" and "bifrost" filters on it encodes only some moments and the result file 52K big...i dont see an error at the logfile, just some lines with "EarlyExit Enabled" ????

anyway, thanks for this awesome tool, which became my number one.

Valky

26th May 2004, 17:52

I agree that this tool is my favourite and only choice for RM-encoding. It's also better looking than before. Now we just wait for bug-free version and before that, we try to take everything out of this little gem. Thank you.

Btw, I would also like to know more details about those settings in previous post and what about this black level -filter? I suppose it helps to reduce those scene changing parts that should be black, but usually with RM they are not. More like green. If this filter is for this purpose, will it also effect to other parts of movie? Is it safe to use?

karl_lillevold

26th May 2004, 18:47

meditate2: Here is an explanation of the RV10 codec settings, many of them can be set by AutoRV10: RealVideo 10 codecProperties explained (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72321). In most cases the recommended setting is to leave them alone, i.e. default. With some experience one can start to play around with some finetuning, and this has been discussed here, but for the most part, default is good (well, except if you have a reasonably fast computer, change the EHQ setting from default 80 to 90, which is the codec default, but AutoRV10's default is 80).

With regards to 'videomode', use 'normal' or 'sharp'. New in Producer 10 Gold is that with 'sharp' you the inloop thresholds are moved up slightly. Previously 'sharp' would do nothing except for very low bitrates. I use 'normal'. AutoRV10 also lets you set the inloop thresholds separately.

Re "Filter guide": Yes, it would be wonderful if someone would write a short summary for what all the filters do. Personally, I use only two filters: Fluxsmooth for grainy/noisy material, and Decomb for inverse telecine, but others prefer to play around with all sorts of filters.

"Enable loss-protection": useful only for streaming over lossy networks.
"Presets for curve compression": See codec options explained above

I agree, AutoRV10 is a great tool. It works well out-of-the-box. No need to change many settings.

Valky: I have not seen the bugs you mentioned. My target filesize always ends up correct. The black-level filter is meant to adjust the black level in videos where black is too bright or grayish. This is mostly useful for videos captured with sub-optimal settings, and probably not appropriate in other cases. Strange problem you mention with black scene changes turning green. I have never seen that myself.

Valky

26th May 2004, 21:11

Originally posted by karl_lillevold

Valky: I have not seen the bugs you mentioned. My target filesize always ends up correct. Strange problem you mention with black scene changes turning green. I have never seen that myself.

@karl: I have also made very accurate full-size movies (700mb) with older versions with this tool and now I have made already 6 episodes with accurate filesize 233mb with this version.
Somehow I haven't just managed to do 700mb file. Anyone else who have with just this latest beta?

And what comes to that green part..it's not really green..It's more like gray blockiness or something. Anyway, it should be absolutely black green, cause there isn't any picture during these scenes. I have noticed this before with other RM-tools, thought.

Off-topic: What about this issue, what I was wondering on other forum section:

I just upgraded my player to this newer one and noticed one thing. In RealPlayer the picture somehow much more colourful and sharpen than in mpc. Why is that? It's almost like my hard efforts for removing the rainbow effects in old Fawlty Tower backups are back when using RealPlayer to watch these clips? I thought that these players produce absolutely same picture quality with default settings.

I admit that I thought that there were something wrong with my deinterlacing, since MPC seems to 'lag' the picture on some parts with my files, but with new RealPlayer all my videos are absolutely smooth to play[/QUOTE]

Dark-Cracker

26th May 2004, 21:39

@meditate2

>Also what is an in-loop filter ?

A loop filter may reduce the annoying blocking artefacts inherent in low bitrate coding and produces smaller bitstream because of less prediction error from the deblocked reference frame.
Its coding gain is not coming from many bits saving or much higher PSNR, but from subjective quality, especially in the case of very low bit rate coding.

> drop-dupe and DUP

rv10 is a variable frame rate container, in fact dropdupe and dup are complementary. drope-dupe detect similar frame and only encode once this frame and change the frame rate, DUP is a filter to duplicate the frames, if 2 (or more) frames consecutive are similar, this will help dropdupe filter detection.
this can help u to reduce the number of frames to encode, and allow the codec to use more bitrate for the others.

in next version once u will use DUP filter it will enable drope-dup filter .

>presets at the curve compressions

the presets are used to help u to get some *reliable* value for the high and low % , it analyse the .pass file (generated during the first pass) to calculate the motion of your movie.
using the result it also take count of the compressibilty of the movie and automaticly calculate some value needed for the codec.

preset low allow more flexibility for the codec to change the value provided by autorv10, and strong preset *force* the codec to use them.
(warning the high and low % can generate over/undersize).

for the filter panel i have not yet finish to build it, the bug reports for this panel are for the moment useless :)

@valky

>Anyone else who have with just this latest beta?

i have no found problems with my latest 2 backups (700 and 1400 mb)
undersize of 200 kb for the first and oversize of 500 kb for the second.

>It's more like gray blockiness or something

i have once get this bug using blackfilter. in fact it was when i have incrust subtitle using vsfilter and on some frame there were like a layer of grey (look like opacity 10%). i think perhaps subtitle can false the blackfilter detection, but not sure .

>Off-topic: What about this issue, what I was wondering on other forum section:

this can come from the render used in mpc. but this answer is also out of topic :)

Bye.

Valky

27th May 2004, 00:05

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker

>It's more like gray blockiness or something

i have once get this bug using blackfilter. in fact it was when i have incrust subtitle using vsfilter and on some frame there were like a layer of grey (look like opacity 10%). i think perhaps subtitle can false the blackfilter detection, but not sure .

This might be true, since I always use subtitles burned in picture when I encode in RM format. Have to do more investigation...

karl_lillevold

27th May 2004, 00:12

Encoding subtitles "burned in picture" is bad for compression efficiency ... but I guess unavoidable in certain cases. In my experiments with Matroska I have found it is possible to multiplex native sub-titles with RV10, and have them displayed with MPC and VSFilter. That feature is great, because I also like to move the subtitles around on playback such that they are as much out of the way as possible. "Burned" subtitles can of course never be removed or moved.

Re the player issues you mentioned. Sorry, I really do not know what could be going on. On all my systems, the video looks about the same in MPC and RealPlayer 10, but I prefer MPC for its flexibility with subtitles, ability to play Matroska, bookmarks, navigation, single-stepping, and a few other reasons.

31st May 2004, 04:38

Hi All.

> drop-dupe and DUP rv10 is a variable frame rate container, in fact dropdupe and dup are complementary. drope-dupe detect similar frame and only encode once this frame and change the frame rate, DUP is a filter to duplicate the frames, if 2 (or more) frames consecutive are similar, this will help dropdupe filter detection. this can help u to reduce the number of frames to encode, and allow the codec to use more bitrate for the others. in next version once u will use DUP filter it will enable drope-dup filter .

When ever I enable the DUP filter I get an immediate "finnished writing" and "errors 0" for both passes. With out any writing occuring at all.

BTW Dark-Cracker any work around for the batch encode bug you can think of?

Dark-Cracker

31st May 2004, 16:03

hi,

the avisynth panel is not yet finished , i will update it in the next release.
and i will also fix all the bug reported.
u can expect a new release within the 2 days.
i think this should solve all the problems.

vermaccio

4th June 2004, 10:27

1)i install it
2)i start it and i have problems:

it doesn't find vb6fr.dll sgrunt... i installed vb6 runtimes in french! (french???)

it doesn't find avisinth. i downloaded avisinth 2.5.4.
now it says that it needs avisinth 2.5.5 (there is only alpha version) arghhh. i downloaded it too

now it says there are problem with an ocx never heard....

and so on.

Can you create an installer "full" of everything it needs?

thank you

i have win2000 sp4

Dark-Cracker

4th June 2004, 17:51

hi,

autorv10 is still in beta version , so for the moment there will be no installer until the final version.

if u have some problems with the ocx i suggest u to install the autorv9 version (who is bundle with an installer and all the .ocx file needed) install it (deselect "install avisynth 2.0.7") , delete the autorv9 directory and install the autorv10 beta version.
all should work fine.

else i suggest u to wait until the final version to test this software, or i think i u don't wait until this, u can find in the *RV9 thread* a list of the other GUI who surely come with an installer and will probabely meet your needs.

Bye.

nirudha

7th June 2004, 04:17

hi,

is there way of encoding the audio stream of an AVS file at a quality other than the standard 44kbps RA8? autorv10 seems to want a seperate audio stream file and if it can't find one it sticks to the default audio setting mentioned above. it would be nice for it to use the codec and bit rate you select in the audio tab even if it cannot do normalization etc on the integrated audio stream.

any thoughts?

nirudha

Dark-Cracker

7th June 2004, 04:37

hi,

>is there way of encoding the audio stream of an AVS file at a quality other than the standard 44kbps RA8?

for the moment autorv10 doesn't take care if your avs file have or not an audio stream (wait next release for this feature.)

at 44kbps it's always RA8 (upper bitrate is RA10 => AAC and ACC+).

>autorv10 seems to want a seperate audio stream file and if it can't find one it sticks to the default audio setting mentioned above.

yes for the moment u need select the separate file, else it will encode without audio stream.

>it would be nice for it to use the codec and bit rate you select in the audio tab even if it cannot do normalization etc on the integrated audio stream.

yes this is on my todo list :)

Bye.

Dark-Cracker

11th June 2004, 15:44

hi,

just a little post to say that the developpement of the subtitles are on the way :) i am finishing to made a preview of the vobsub file.

screenshot here :
http://dark.pluridis.org/subview.jpg

in order to help u to incrust them :)
this function have been a lot asked so i have work hard on this.

i will try to release a new version soon.

Bye.

Razorblade2000

11th June 2004, 15:59

thx :D
Looks really nice

Dark-Cracker

13th June 2004, 17:48

hi,

just a quick build for this beta 5.
this file is an update (new autorv10.exe and the new avisynth filters).
u need to decompress the archive in the autorv10 folder and overwrite the old files.

url :
-----
http://dark.pluridis.org/AutoRV10_v1.0_b5_update.zip

changelog :
-----------
- update dvd2avi and mpeg2dec3.dll with the latest v1.3.0 version.
- added new avisynth filters and remove some olders.
- get informations (bitrate/channels/frequency) on all the input file (.WAV/.MPA/.MP2/.DTS/.AC3)
- add a Vobsub Subtitle Preview (http://dark.pluridis.org/subview.jpg)
- add an online updater (check if u have the latest version)
- detect interlaced field parity (for MPEG2 input)
- Dynamic denoise cleanning
- improve the Ripper Panel (support more than 1 dvd-drive).
- fix all bug reported.

new filters added :
-------------------
- IT 2.5 / SmartDecimate for inversetelecine part
- add KernelInt for deinterlace part
- MSsmooth / Bifrost for the anime part

TODO List :
-----------
- improve Ripper Panel (multiangle/ freesize needed / extract by chapters.)
- Improve Audio Panel (mono codec / possibility to use old RV8 codec)
- Finish the Hybrid Mode in Video Panel / improve Analyze of the material.
- finish the preview for the subtitle and add support for .srt/.sub/.ssa ... input file
- add internet tag grabber on www.blockbuster.com and www.dvdfr.com

i will start my summer job monday so i think there will not have new build before a few weeks.

PS : apparenly my work is appreciated :) ^^ (http://dark.pluridis.org/autorv9_string.jpg) :)

Bye.

tiki4

14th June 2004, 08:47

Thanks, D-C,

I will test this new release this evening. Congrats, very nice tattoo!

tiki4

ookzDVD

18th June 2004, 03:44

Can someone provide the mirror of the beta4,
the link is broken anyway.

I can't try the beta5 without the beta4 installed :(

Thank you.

Dark-Cracker

18th June 2004, 18:39

http://dark.pluridis.org/AutoRV10_v1.0_b4.zip

victorhooi

28th June 2004, 07:58

Hi,

I just encoded Wicked City (anime), with a target size of 700Mb. The encoding produced a Wicked City_Movie.rmvb, Wicked City_Credit.rmvb, Wicked City_Subtitle.rt and Wicked City_Subtitle.smil in the destination folder. Anyway, the program reports that it ran out of space whilst joining:

Video Avisynth Script :

Join Movie + Credits :

Log File: c:\AutoRV10_Join.log
Input File 1: C:\video encoding\New Folder\Wicked City_Movie.rmvb
Input File 2: C:\video encoding\New Folder\Wicked City_Credit.rmvb
Output File: c:\video encoding\Wicked City.rmvb

Error: The file could not be processed.
Please verify that there is adequate space on the
destination drive and in your system's temporary directory.
***********************************************

The funny thing is that that drive has exactly 698 Mb free (kinda annoying) - anyway, I'll just join them manually with rmeditor.exe. Exactly what command line should I use (rmeditor -i movie -i credits -o output), or is there a way to rerun the end of the job via AutoRV10?

The real problem is that the sound seems horribly out of sync with the video. If I play from the start, it's fine, but if you attempt to seek, it goes out of sync. This occurs with both Real Player 10, as well as MPC. I understand that 'out-of-sync' isn't that descriptive, but I'm pretty sure it's some silly error on my part.

Anyway, thanks in advance.

Bye,
Victor

PS: Will mono-sound and lower bit-rates be included in the next release?

Dark-Cracker

28th June 2004, 08:25

hi,

yes the command line is rmeditor.exe -i ... -i ... -o ...
but i don't know why u have a desynch , with which tool have u rip the dvd ? have u use demux audio stream from dvd2avi ?

PS : yes i will add mono and lower bitrate :)

Bye.

victorhooi

28th June 2004, 23:57

Hi,

Thanks for the reply, Dark-Cracker. I actually followed the procedure listed here (http://www.everwicked.com/content/DivX_5_Guide/content-02.php) , more or less.

Rip the DVD with DVD Decryptor, which outputs the .VOB files and ac3 file, then input the VOBs into a DVD2AVI project, before piping the .d2v project and .ac3 file to AutoRV10.

Hope that helps.

Bye,
Victor

niamh

1st July 2004, 13:24

OK, I've taken the plunge, and I'm trying RV10 ;)
This app is quite perfect for me ,since I haven't a clue about the settings and so on.It's going to take a bit more reading before I can figure what's what, and is it broken or not :D
Anyway...I'm using beta 5 and the window appearing is too small(some bottom button are hidden) and I can't resize it, so there are at least 2 buttons that I can't even see

Keep up the good work, and thank you :)

meditate2

14th July 2004, 12:23

@DC
great new build, thanks !

Some wishes:
Would it be possible to have 2 "endcredits"?
The endcredits and the same just for the intro ?
It would be great esp. for some material
like short animes series who has always the
same intro which could save a lotsa bytes
, esp. if wanna have them small..

Also and a minimize button 4 the Mainwindow
would be nice.

Also it would be nice if it would keep
your used settings from the last time…
(size of movie etc…)

How about an estimated time left status…(dont
know if this is supported by realprod.)

-

And what means "Use dynamic Filtering" in the
new version ?

thanks,
meditate

Valky

14th July 2004, 13:12

Originally posted by meditate2

How about an estimated time left status…(dont
know if this is supported by realprod.)

This would be great if it is possible to do. At least I have seen it in another RM GUI made by someone else (Can't remember which tool it was, but it really was a great GUI and was the very first one to support avs-source and showed a great progress bar). Unfortunately this other GUI haven't been updated a long time.

Dark-Cracker

14th July 2004, 15:16

hi,

@meditate2
thank u for the requests :) a part of them are already in my wish list.
for the start credits i will try to add them but there is not a lot of free space in the GUI :( but i must work on the credits function soon so perhaps i will rebuild all this part :)

for the time lest for the moment it's not possible , when u launch the encode my GUI is sleeping (to avoid cpu and memory use) so it's not possible to hook the dos encoding windows in sleeping mode.
but i will perhaps change this later.

"Dynamic filtering" allow avisynth to clean (using fluxsmooth or convolution3D) the movie and change the settings if the movie scene is high/Medium/Low it's based on QMF (quantized motion filtering) a plugin developped by HomieFR.
it give better result than linear cleanning.

Bye.

victorhooi

31st July 2004, 09:00

Hi,

AutoRV10 is still my favourite frontend - even with all the new developments in RealAnime and EasyReal-whatever :). I still haven't figured out why the audio/video syncing error occured, but maybe next time I'll try .mkv (yeah, I know, I can mux, but I already deleted the output file - stupid, I know).

Anyway, how's the development going? Waiting eagerly for the next release...

Bye,
Victor

PS: I have the 2 gig .vobs, and an .ac3 file - what's the best way to get these into Auto? (eg best method/options for creating .avs/.d2v?).

hellfred

31st July 2004, 11:26

@DC
Where can i find info on this dynamic denoising form HomieFR?
I have used search but did not hit the right keywords. I could not find any hits for user HomieFR and nois or dynamic etc.

Hellfred

Dark-Cracker

31st July 2004, 14:16

hi,

@victorhooi
simply use the dvd2avi to open your .vob file , select "save project" it will create u a .d2v file , open it in autorv10 and in the audio tab u can open your .ac3 file.

the developpement is still on the way :) i will have more free time in some few week , u can expect a new release soon :)

@hellfred

the dll file used was made by manao , using the HomieFR script QMF.
u can find more info here :
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56051

Bye.

hellfred

31st July 2004, 16:12

Thank you for the link.

Hellfred

victorhooi

1st August 2004, 15:18

Hi,

Can't wait for it dude :).

About the avs/d2v files: There isn't any secret voodoo computer magic I have to do, is there? It's just that some DivX5 guides I read a long time ago recommended all these esoteric options in the menus. Still, your method's simpler :D Furthermore, what's with all the different versions (of D2V) - I should just use the one you included, right?

Finally, I kinda need a movie encoded soon (next few days), and I was wondering what's the best way to update AutoRV10 to the latest Producer/other apps? (while we wait for your next great release, that is).

Thanks,
Victor

Dark-Cracker

1st August 2004, 16:46

@victor

yes use the dvd2avi version who is bundle in the package else u will have an error "invalid d2v file".

if u want to update your producer version the only think u need to kkep in mind is :

- made a backup of the rmto3260.dll file in the tool folder (else the join of credits + movie will failed).
- be sure u have an racp.dll file in the codec folder (else u will not be able to use HE-AAC aucio codec).

* always think to delete the old realproducer folder else u can have problems if some old files remain in the same folder than the new files.

PS : for the latest realproducer u need 2 more .dll file (for the c++ .NET) search in the real producer 9 mercury thread.

Bye.

superdump

15th August 2004, 15:47

Would it be possible to have a matroska output for AutoRV10?

MSlv

15th August 2004, 15:50

I saw in the guide that the final file is in rmvb container. Is there a way to move the audio and video streams in mkv container?

Dark-Cracker

15th August 2004, 20:24

hi,

yes u can use the mkvmerge tool to convert your .rmvb file (1 stream video and 1 stream audio) in mkv file.
if u have made more than 1 audio file u just need to select the 1 rmvb file (1 video stream) and the 2 .rm files (1 audio stream each) and merge them in a .mkv using mkvmerge.

i will try to made a little guide to explain which command line u need to use.

++

Razorblade2000

15th August 2004, 20:38

there'S also a gui called "mmg"

MSlv

16th August 2004, 10:05

thanks. It works. I used mkvtoolnix-0.9.4 from matroska.org, and the gui (mmg.exe) makes it so simple... Is it possible to multiplex the rmvb video stream with other audio stream, like ac3 or mp3?

Dark-Cracker

16th August 2004, 12:13

yes u can mux in matroska most of the newest audio codec : ogg , aac, mp3, ac3 ....
read in the www.matroska.org siteweb the list of the supported audio format.

++

MSlv

16th August 2004, 20:08

After the convertion was 100% (after 2nd pass), AutoRV10_v1.0_b4 gave me this error:Run-time error "9":

Subscript out of range
I don't know what's wrong. I have now 2 .rmvb files, one is the movie and the other one is the credits. Is there a way to join them toghether?

Sirber

16th August 2004, 20:12

Smells like VB :eek: ;)

MSlv

16th August 2004, 20:19

what can I do to prevent this from happening?
And HOW do I join the movie and the credits toghether?

damrod

16th August 2004, 20:42

yep

you must have a directory with the producer.exe i think

look if there is also a rmeditor.exe ...

if yes open a cmd window (execute -> cmd)

then go to this directory with the cd command....

type rmeditor.exe
it will give you info about how to use it ;-))

...ok i'm a good boy ;-))

http://damrod66.free.fr/rmeditor.exe => it's the cmdline app
http://damrod66.free.fr/rmed.exe => a gui in vb6 i wrote sometimes ago

there's a part "append files" : you click on add files, choose one by one in the good order you files then click on save as button

remember to put this file(s) in the same directory of producer.exe

damrod

16th August 2004, 20:43

normally you will not have pb with vb6 dlls : autorv10 is written in vb6 so you still have the dlls ;-)

MSlv

16th August 2004, 20:53

with rmed.exe:Component 'COMDLG32.OCX' or one of its dependencies not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid

Sirber

16th August 2004, 21:09

lol!!!

look on google, you can find all the needed DLL/OCX :)

Dark-Cracker

16th August 2004, 21:18

go in the rp9_light folder and use this command in the dos box :

rmeditor -i "c:\movie.rmvb -i "c:\credits.rmvb" -o "c:\final.rmvb"

of course think to change the path with the correct one.

to prevent a such error think to update with the b5 version.

++

Sirber

16th August 2004, 21:27

@DC

Why isn't AutoRV10 avalible on your website?

damrod

16th August 2004, 22:06

pff vb really sucks lol

Dark-Cracker

16th August 2004, 22:12

@sirber
it will be available in the download section of my siteweb once it will have finish the beta stage, for the moment it only available in my forum.

@damrod
plz avoid freeposting in this thread who have already a lot of posts . thx.

++

Sirber

16th August 2004, 22:13

That's very OT :o

superdump

18th August 2004, 03:56

Originally posted by Dark-Cracker
yes u can mux in matroska most of the newest audio codec : ogg , aac, mp3, ac3 ....
read in the www.matroska.org siteweb the list of the supported audio format.

++ I knew about the MMG .rmvb to .mkv conversion but I thought an integrated approach with the ability to use a variety of audio compression codecs might be an area to expand AutoRV10. But if you want to stick solely to RV and RA in .rmvb then that's fine. :) It's your project after all.

Dark-Cracker

22nd August 2004, 23:26

Hi,

i have made a quick build :)

url (5.6 mb) :
----------------
http://dark.pluridis.org/AutoRV10_v1.0_b6.zip

http://dark.pluridis.org/cpp71dll.zip

changelog :
--------------

- add alternative curve scaling.
- improve auto calc inloop cut off quantizer.
- improve IFO parser (better detection of subtitle/audio stream ID).
- improve preview speed during display.
- allow audio preview if directshow filter is found.
- remove the "streaming error" option
- limit Avisynth Memory usage.
- enable multithreads if Hyperthreading or MultiProcessor were detected
- at start check if the CPU support MMX instruction (needed for avisynth)
- display warning if CPU doesn't support iSSE instruction (needed for some filters).
- check if the c++ 7.1 dll are installed (needed for producer)
- check if there is a YV12 decompressor installed.
- improve dynamic cleaning (high/medium/low motion).

Dark-Cracker

22nd August 2004, 23:29

i have also open an paypal count if u want to make donation and support my work u can find info here :
http://dark.pluridis.org/paypal.php

Bye.

victorhooi

24th August 2004, 10:14

Hi,

Great :D, can't wait to try it out. Just from a quick look (couple of secs), it seems you still can't resize the window - consequently, one of the buttons (can't see the label) at the bottom is hidden.

Also, any chance of including lower bitrates for audio?

Keep up the good work.

Bye,
Victor

Dark-Cracker

24th August 2004, 14:27

hi,

yes the button "exit" is always out of the windows (lol i have not fix this matter yet) i will work on the cosmetic part once all the feature will be there.

for the audio i have not yet work on it but lower bitrate will be there in next release.

++

karl_lillevold

8th September 2004, 03:19

It could be very useful to be able to input/include an external file size for audio. Since other container formats are now in use with RV10, for instance AC3 and Vorbis, and one can mux these with the video track after compression, it would be convenient if AutoRV10 could include this filesize in its bitrate/filesize calculation. One could imagine a box where # of MB could be typed... Perhaps even the existing box on the "Codec" page could be made editable?

Dark-Cracker

8th September 2004, 06:32

yep this could be an intresting feature i will try to see the best way to include it in the GUI.

i am also thinking about add a way to enter manualy the output video bitrate and show separate video and audio bitrate in the codec panel but i still need to find enought free space in the panel.

13th September 2004, 22:26

Sorry guys am I missing something obvious here? I've installed the latest avisynth. But I get this message every time I try to start Autorv10.

Win XP SP1

Autorv10 b6

Dark-Cracker

14th September 2004, 01:11

hi,

read the first post it's writen where u can find a yv12 decompressor (here : http://dark.pluridis.org/yuvcodecs_1.2.exe)

++

14th September 2004, 09:48

Thanks D-C. That opening post is comprehensive. Nice to have all the info in one place.

Cheers :)

karl_lillevold

14th September 2004, 18:09

#2: That's exactly what you need, and for the record, here is the the thread discussing these Helix YUV codecs (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56972&highlight=helix+yuv).

17th September 2004, 22:32

I get this when trying to encode Clerks (B&W)

Run-time error "6":
Overflow

This only happens when I do the whole film. small test cuts work fine on the same settings.

-AMD optimisations
-PAL 4:3
-Anamorphic with out "keep croped..."
-Tomsmocomp
-Conv 3D, medium
-Undot
-E.H.Q. 100
-Normal motion
-Enable Black Filter
-Idle Process Priority

Heeps of space every where.
Any thoughts.

karl_lillevold

19th September 2004, 07:05

hmmm, I had an over-run with this tool as well, but I am not sure at the moment the exact cause. Maybe it was because the b6 version defaults to D-C's custom curve compression RC adjustment instead of the default one... There should be a new version soon. I have communicated with D-C about this problem, and I think we will hear from him soon as well ;)

19th September 2004, 21:40

Thanks Karl.
If its any help D-C; This also happens on this flim with or with out the black filter enabled and also with the Alternative codec settings and the Linea codec settings.... Still testing.

Sirber

19th September 2004, 21:56

This is simply a VB bug. A step-by-step repro will show where it is and will be easier to fix.

20th September 2004, 21:57

It crashes right at the end of the encode. Which means that each test takes 7-8 hrs. :\ It makes the credit part ok and then I think it may be crashing as it finalises the movie part of the encode. Either that or crashes on the join. I tryed it with out 'delete temp file' and ended up with a 1.3 MB tmp file and the same issue. I'll try it with out credits set and then with a smaller output file size (1315 MB ATM)

Sound good?

BTW on all encodes I get 1 Error saying "Unable to open codec mapping file F:\Autorv~2\Softs\Rp9_L~1\resources\CodecMapping.txt" If I create that file I don't get the error but then it is just a blank file...?

Sirber

20th September 2004, 22:01

That file is to override old codecs to new codecs. It can be blank.

22nd September 2004, 20:39

I reduced the file size from 1315 MB to 650 MB and got no overflow. Not setting credits made no difference. Hope that helps.

Dark-Cracker

24th September 2004, 21:31

hi,

i think i have found the problem , the next release should solve this bug (a wrong var type during cleanning the code :) ).

i will release a quick build this week with the fix of the differents bugs reported.

++

Dark-Cracker

26th September 2004, 16:55

hi,

just a quick release before i come back to school :)
i have made an installer (not yet 100% working i should add the yv12 codec and unicows.dll if win9x/me is detected).
i have fix all the reported bugs and add a few new functions but it's still the beta 6 (i should have call it beta 6.1 but not :) ).

changelog :
-----------

- allow to re use the first pass stat file.
- add EHQ and Anamorphic informations in the tag video
- limit minimum monitor resolution at 800x600 to launch autorv10
- correct mpeg2 color conversion and chroma limiter by default
- improve filter preset settings

cf first post for the full install.

Bye.

30th September 2004, 09:41

Thanks D-C that fixed the problem with Clerks. I also like the filter presets better.

Should I be worried about any registry settings from old versions?

Dark-Cracker

1st October 2004, 17:44

no problem with the registry , all the info are stored in the autorv10.ini file :)

++

karl_lillevold

2nd October 2004, 17:51

Nice work! Finally an installer again, no need to install old version to get things working for the first time.

This version works great for me, no errors to report. The introduction of dynamic pre-filters is cool, and I have switched to your alt cc rate control :) Finally, I noticed the new ColorMatrix as the final filter in your Avisynth script. I looked up its thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82217&highlight=ColorMatrix) in the Avisynth forum, and compared with and without side-by-side using StackVertical in Avisynth. I can easily see the difference. ColorMatrix does make the colors look more natural. Very interesting.

Oh, what else: one can now set process priority for everything AutoRV10 starts, including audio conversion. This is another important detail. Previously I would have to lower its priority manually, since it runs for quite a while, leaving the computer rather unresponsive..

hubereevez

17th November 2004, 19:02

:scared:

Dark come back, my love .............:), up.......

Your GUI still does a great job with DVD, perfect with Hybridfupp filter on anime, movies (high preset)

Come back.....

hubert

MSlv

19th November 2004, 18:38

Yeah! A new build would be very nice, considering the updates in RV10...

Pleeeeeeeeease...

Dark-Cracker

28th November 2004, 15:27

hi,

you will a new build the next week , i have find some free hours this weekend to add (again) the subtitle part, but unhappily i have found a bug so i will delay the build to correct it.

sorry if u have to wait but i am actually under exams :( and my studies come first, i will start my exams monday, and during 1 week i will have 8h * 5day exams :( once it's finish i will have 2 days of party :) (+ 8h to understand why i have an headache and who is this girl in my bed :) ), and the week after i have 2 oral tests one in communication on my report (generated after my previous year training period) and the other test is for my english courses and the TOEIC.
the week after i have to release 40 page of documentation for my "project management" courses, and after i an on hollyday but i still need to find my 6 month training period. as you can see i have a lot of thing to do so i think i will try to made the next update as stable as possible because i am not sure to have a lot of time to update it after.

Stay tuned :)

++

tiki4

28th November 2004, 18:06

Good luck to your exams! ... and provide some pictures of the girl that wakes up next to you. I guess we're also interested :D

tiki4

hubereevez

29th November 2004, 03:39

happy to see you again

i know you now, so I think I can ask this :

Could you make a new build priority with video encoding ? Eg producer, dvd2avi, new filter.......

i think other tool make a great job with sub and chapter already, but I know you will a all in one gui.

Thanks again dark anf goooooooo paypal erf

lol

hubert

MSlv

30th November 2004, 19:45

Yes, good luck with your exams and projects. I wish you the highest grades possible. It's nice to hear from you again. I just thought you were no longer developing this marvelous tool. What I want to find out is if future builds can improve speed, picture quality (just curious, great quality so far) and if you can add mkv output to the gui.

Thanks again for creating this. I gave up encoding in DivX, Xvid because of this and I don't regret it.

Dark-Cracker

5th December 2004, 00:41

hi,

my exams have been finished with success (except for 1 test :( but everybody have find it hard) i have made a little party :) but unhappyly i don't have found a girl in my bed when i have awakened :(

but to stay on the topic , about the new build.

i have add the new version of the colormatrix and kerneldeint filters in the archive.

i still need to improve the subtitle part, actually it allow to add vobsub and text subtitles, but i add some improvement in the next build (such as only keeping forced subtitle or allow to made a preview of the text subtitle, or add a delay on the subtitle)

Q : How i see the futur ?
A : for the futur releases i will improve the subtitle part first , after i will improve the audio part (clean code dts support and add mono codec), and after i will improve the ripping panel (dvd with multiangle ...).

for the matroska support it will surely be added but after autorv10 will be enought stable and with all the needed options.

i have start to clean and add some speed/memory optimisations so i think this release should be really optimized :)

url :
-----
(full version)
http://dark.pluridis.org/downloads/Autorv10_v1.0.zip
(update)
http://dark.pluridis.org/AutoRV10_v1.0_b7_update.zip

remember that if you like this tool u could made a donation HERE (http://dark.pluridis.org/paypal.php) :)

how to :
--------
install the full version, and after decompress the update (beta 7) archive in the same folder and overwrite the old files.

changelog :
-----------
- remove undot filter and now use removegrain.
- you need to have the administrator rights to launch the application.
- catch and display the "real producer" error messages.
- added chroma mode decision option by default.
- add the audio bitrate HE-AAC at 32 and 48 kbps
- possibility to use an highter complexity (EHQ=65) during the first pass.
- now the EHQ value by default is 85.
- add an option to turn off the screen after 5 min of inactivity.
- possibility to enter float value for the desired ouput size.

- fix bug in the chapter extraction, and if the chapter is skipped if shorter than 5 sec.
- fix bug if there is more than 9 ifo on the dvd.
- fix bug in avisyntherror.dll who can result in a crash after displaying too more avisynth error msg.
- fix bug in the vobsub preview ("bad data aligned")