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Harrysmiith
1st November 2005, 17:14
I'm in the process of backing up "The grapes of wrath" using HC, undot,deen,
movie only - 84.4%

As I have never converted to 16:9 I thought I'd give it a go.

What do othere think ? do you always convert ?, never convert ? or it depends ?
Are there any disadvantages ? ( like bits getting cut off)

magic144
1st November 2005, 17:25
well if the source material is not letterboxed (i.e. if it is regular 4:3 material), you will lose the top and bottom of the frame, which is not an insignificant amount of the screen real-estate - chances are you will lose a head here and there!

I think this function is targeted to video material that is non-anamorphic widescreen - for whatever reason, the studio released the disc in 'widescreen' embedded in a 4:3 frame - I don't know the ins and outs of why they would do this, but this will let you extract the 'good stuff' and throw away the embedded 'black bars' from such material

feedback
1st November 2005, 18:19
You will definitely lose some screen real-estate as magic144 put it.

I tried it with regular 4:3 material once and ended up giving some actors a crewcut. I don't recommend it.

Regards,:)

P.S. It is made for 4:3 Letterbox to 16:9 Anamorphic Widescreen only.
But nothing will crash if you just want to experiment with it.

Harrysmiith
1st November 2005, 18:30
Thanks Magic 144 & Feedback. I have looked at the HC preview and yes feet and heads do seem to be suffering. Its just that using DVD-Pro these last few weeks has become kinda boring :) - nothing seems to go wrong with DVD- Pro or HC so I thought I'd try something new

magic144
1st November 2005, 18:32
that is a nice ennui to have
:-)

feedback
1st November 2005, 18:44
Thanks Magic 144 & Feedback. I have looked at the HC preview and yes feet and heads do seem to be suffering. Its just that using DVD-Pro these last few weeks has become kinda boring :) - nothing seems to go wrong with DVD- Pro or HC so I thought I'd try something new
Well if you are bored you can try some of the AviSynth Filters located Here (http://www.avisynth.org/warpenterprises/) on your source material and see what develops. :D

Just remember to put the filter in your AviSynth folder also.

Regards,:)

Harrysmiith
1st November 2005, 19:22
thanks - I'm going to try fluxsmooth instead of deen.

roux
1st November 2005, 19:26
Can someone tell what Deen filter actually does, i looked at the avisynth homepage but did not find a detailed description.

feedback
3rd November 2005, 07:46
Can someone tell what Deen filter actually does, i looked at the avisynth homepage but did not find a detailed description.
"Deen is a 3D denoiser. In English this means that it makes changes based not only on the surrounding pixels of the current frame, but also the content of surrounding frames. This is important for denoising since it's basically just a selective smoothing of details. I don't recommend using this filter unless you have to compress the DVD a lot with Rebuilder or have a poor quality source to begin with. Smoothing is very helpful to CCE because sharp edges and fine details are some of the biggest challenges for lower bitrate encoding".

Check out the author's thread on Deen located Here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41643)

Regards,:)

roux
3rd November 2005, 14:00
Thanks for describing :)

Inc
3rd November 2005, 15:04
Before using deen I would give LRemovedust at parameters (17,2) a try. Maybe its enough for cleaning the source. Advantage: a) Better denoising, b) better detailkeeping and last but not least c) ////////SPEEEED
;)

www.removegrain.de.tf
Use the dll corresponding to your CPU and do search in here for LRemovedust.