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himi-doom9
31st October 2005, 08:58
Hi,

Got problem in DVD-RB

Problem "File V1000...... reports ok but there are no .M2V file""

Well I started witg DVD Shrink 3.2.0.15 and got cyclic redundancy error in first analysing part.

After that I enabled AnyDVD which already was loaded but not enabled.

Tried DVD Shrink again with same result.

Uninstalled Anydvd and installed DVD Fab Decrypter. DVD Fab was successful in ripping but it took a "while". After that I used DVD Shrink again to rip the DVD Fab result WITHOUT encoding ie. DVD-9 format setting in DVD Shrink. I always use DVD Shrink in this mode as my primary ripper. After that I always do the encoding with DVD Rebuilder Pro 1.01 and CCE SP.

I do use DVD shrink to be able to remove all except mainmovie and the audio I
prefer. Had problems with this in earlier versions of DVD-RB.

When I tried DVD Rebuilder Pro on the above DVD Fab and DVD Shrink result i got an error from DVD Rebuilder saying something like the file V001......... reports ok but there are no .M2V file. This happend around 68% of total process in DVD Rebuilder. Tried twice.

After that I used DVD Shrink to encode it which was succsessful.

Ideas?

Cheers!

jdobbs
31st October 2005, 11:43
Have you tried using a source that hasn't been preprocessed with DVD-Shrink? Please try that... because as it is I don't know whether the cause of the problem is Rebuilder or Shrink.

When no M2V is created it usually means that CCE is crashing during the encode. The most common cause for that is overclocking of the computer... if you do a "search" you'll see that CCE is the ultimate stability checker.

himi-doom9
31st October 2005, 11:47
Hi,

Will try to run DVD-RB on the DVD Fab resukt then. And see what happens.

No overcloking in my enviroment.

Cheers

himi-doom9
31st October 2005, 22:38
Hi,

Same result. ie DVD Fab rip then DVD-RB



[18:01:30] One Click encoding activated...
-----------------
[18:01:30] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- CCE SP 2.70.2.0 encoder selected.
- VTS_01: 2 925 291 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V & .AVS files
-- Processed 188 199 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 79,7%
- Overall Bitrate : 4 368Kbs
- Space for Video : 4 014 248KB
- HIGH/LOW/TYPICAL Bitrates: 4 721/3 765/4 368 Kbs
[18:07:55] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 6 minutes.
[18:07:55] Phase II ENCODING started
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 0
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 1
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 2
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 3
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 4
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 5
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 6
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 7
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 8
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 9
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
-- Encoding resulted in no .M2V, retrying.
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
-- Encoding resulted in no .M2V, retrying.
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 10
Aborted.

pg55555
1st November 2005, 15:54
It has been reported CCE SP 2.70.02 has problems with some inputs, for example with the noise full HBO logo.
I would recomend you to try another encoder, as HC, or other version of CCE.

The fact that you have such problems with Shrink at the begining seems to me a source problem, that probably generated a corrupt rip. Try wachting the problematic segment (one way would be use RBOpt after the Prepare phase to preview the segment)

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 08:26
Hi,

What version would be to prefer if using CCE?

Cheers

FredThompson
2nd November 2005, 09:38
Try opening the associated AVS file (probably V01001000001011.avs) with VirtualDub and tell us what you see. I'm guessing you'll see something about not being able to load the script.

I've had this error for 2 things; an improper script (my fault, not jdobbs' fault) and a PAL disc which has some streams that DGDecode 1.1.0 (DG's of Nan's version) won't decode properly.

What you report doesn't look like an encoder error, it looks like nothing is being fed to the encoder.

If at all possible, run this test with a rip from the original disc. Which title and disc, exactly, are giving you this problem?

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 10:54
Hi, Will try! How do I know for fact what file to open? Or are you sure about your suggested file name?

What was you solution regarding DGDecode error?

FredThompson
2nd November 2005, 11:39
Hi, Will try! How do I know for fact what file to open? Or are you sure about your suggested file name?I'm pretty sure about the file name. The first 2 digits are the VTS number, the next four are offset segment #, the next five I'm not sure, the last 3 look like absolute segment but I'm looking at a running job for which that last 3 are repeated for 2 different segments. Look at the log you posted and the filenames. All I did was start to look for a pattern the other night when I was edited the filtering I'm using on different segments (more smoohting on anime, less on live action.)
What was you solution regarding DGDecode error?Well, I can tell you how I think I'll solve it but then jdobbs might want to kill me...I created a separate D2V using DGDecode 1.4.5 then modified those particular AVS files to use 1.4.5 and the D2V I made. I've not run that test yet, got sidetracked with anime cleanup. The scripts worked just fine. I can't say that the process will work properly as I haven't done it yet. I also was hoping jdobbs would release an update using 1.4.5 and I could test against it then. There's not really a lot of motivation for me to keep the source files once I've made a proper smallified version, is there? (Hmm...we need a word like "shrunk" for the result of DVD-RB. Ribbited? No, dvdrbed? No...)

FWIW, cleanup bogs things down. I'd only recommend it for really dirty sources.

This post helped a lot as I started experimenting with filtering and trying to solve that crash: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=101215

jdobbs
2nd November 2005, 11:52
Here's what the filenames mean:

V01000100002001.XXX

V01 = VTS
0001 = Segment number
00002 = VOBID
001 = CELLID

I gotta' tell you... In over 800 backups I've never found a source that couldn't be processed by DGDECODE v1.10... that doesn't mean it isn't possible or that I doubt you -- but it sure make me strongly confident in it...

Can you identify for a certainty which portion of your source is being rejected by v1.10? If so, could you send it to me so I can test it? I'd be interested in seeing exactly what it hangs on.

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 12:58
Hi,

Ok guys I´ve done like 400 backups not with DVD-RB but my intention is only use DVD-RB
so I really wanna pin this down.

Tell me what to do so you get the right info from me.

I got an DVD Fab decrypted source from the movie "The Merchant from Venice" Region 2. Tell me what to do from know?

Cheers!

jdobbs
2nd November 2005, 13:13
1. First run PREPARE against the source in 3-Click mode.

2. Attempt to open V010010XXXXXXX.AVS (the x's are numbers -- but I don't know what they are from the posts.) using Windows Media Player. This file should be located in D2VAVS under the "Working Directory".

3. If that works, run the encode phase again -- and report what happens.

4. If the encode fails again, zip together V010010XXXXXXX.AVS, REBUILDER.INI, REBUILDER.INF, and REBUILDER.ECL and send them to me at dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com.

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 13:14
Hi ok will do!

FredThompson
2nd November 2005, 17:33
I gotta' tell you... In over 800 backups I've never found a source that couldn't be processed by DGDECODE v1.10... that doesn't mean it isn't possible or that I doubt you -- but it sure make me strongly confident in it...

Can you identify for a certainty which portion of your source is being rejected by v1.10? If so, could you send it to me so I can test it? I'd be interested in seeing exactly what it hangs on.Heh, I missed this additional comment until just now. When the current job is done I'll restart the "problem" one and send you the important files. A lot of the added capability of recent builds are for streaming MPEG2. Might not seem important now but since VCRs are about to disappear from stores, it will be more and more common.

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 19:55
Hi again,

I´m doing the prepare phase now. How do I identify the particular .AVS file? Or was I supposed to try them all in media player?

Cheers

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 20:14
Hi,

Ok I´ve been playing all the .AVS files begining from the last one (V01001600002006.AVS) and working to the first one.

The only "error" I found during the play in mediaplayer was glitches in V01001000001011.AVS at 4.50 - 5.00 min playtime.

Could this be the reason to my problem?

This is near the end of this movie. When I was ripping with DVD Fab the DVD reader was making clicking noises near the end aswell.

You know like when you got reading errors on a scratchy cd? I did check the orginal DVD and I couldn´t see any obvious scratches or so. Could this be becasue of an anti ripping protection?
I´m doing the rest of the requested steps now.

jdobbs
2nd November 2005, 20:26
Yes, that is very probably the source of the problem. A good guess is that there are illegal MPEG sequences in that segment. I know there are some issues that have been corrected in AnyDVD (released today) that sound very similar to this. I'd check the DVDFab site and see if they have an update as well.

Is that segment a part of the feature? If not you could just use the Rebuilder segment editor and blank that section out.

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 20:33
Hi, Ok I see. Yes it´s part of the movie. I´m always making main movie only to get best quality. I´ll check out those version.

Would you recommend Anydvd together with dvddecrypter or even maybe skip dvddecrypter and only go for Anydvd with DVD-RB?

FredThompson
2nd November 2005, 20:37
Ah, yes indeedie-doo. If you get corrupted data, you'll probably have corrupt output. Protection? Possibly? Some DVD readers don't "play well" with some media, even some silver discs.

himi-doom9
2nd November 2005, 21:08
Hi again,

Forgot to mention when I was watching the original DVD in my Pioneer DVD player at home I actually saw the very same glitches. I´ve also read about the new ripguard maybe it could be it?