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setarip_old
15th October 2005, 19:03
(Perhaps the author or another knowledgeable person can provide the answer)

As an experiment, I used DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 ("File" mode, selected "ALL files") to successfully rip Region 1 "Lords of Dogtown - Unrated - Extended Cut" by setting the program to -0- "Software error retries" and by putting a checkmark next to "Ignore read errors".

The process took approximately 5 hours, but that's irrelevant. This is simply an experiment.

The resultant DVD "package" (.IFOs, .BUPs, and .VOBs) was accepted directly (No PSL file created, No re-ripping) for input and processed properly by both DVD Shrink and DVD95Copy (DVD2One balked at the .IFOs).

What I'd like to know is, based on the settings I used, exactly what did DVD Decrypter actually do regarding the (several hundred) "bad sectors" that it was unable to read, when it ripped the DVD to my hard drive? Did it write anything in those sectors?

setarip_old
18th October 2005, 05:14
Surely there must be someone who can provide the answer?

blutach
18th October 2005, 06:42
See #12 here (http://forum.doom9.org/forum-rules.htm).

Regards

setarip_old
18th October 2005, 06:47
@blutach

Perhaps you should re-read Rule #12 - Two days is not 5 minutes...

"12) How NOT to post on this forum:

5 minutes after your initial post you reply to your own post writing something like 'Why is nobody helping me? I'm sure you know the answer'."

Regards

LIGHTNING UK!
18th October 2005, 11:54
You could have figured the answer out for yourself in 2 days!

What you couldn't figure out, take an educated guess on.

setarip_old
18th October 2005, 23:17
@LIGHTNING UK!

I'm afraid you've given too much credit. I don't have a clue as to exactly what did DVD Decrypter actually do regarding the (several hundred) "bad sectors" that it was unable to read, when it ripped the DVD to my hard drive - and that's why I was seeking your input...

max-holz
20th October 2005, 12:08
You could have figured the answer out for yourself in 2 days!

What you couldn't figure out, take an educated guess on.

Welcome back!

surge0
20th October 2005, 14:54
I tried dvdfabdecryptor and with no problems ripped lords of dogtown in thirty-five minutes. Same version of the dvd you are talking about! and very user friendly!!!

johnhamler1
25th October 2005, 17:14
lightning UK,I thought you were in jail?(kidding).
so what about you?

have you decided to update your software?

int 21h
25th October 2005, 20:32
lightning UK,I thought you were in jail?(kidding).
so what about you?

have you decided to update your software?

1. That's really in bad taste.

2. AFAIK, his arrangements with an unnamed corporation prohibit him from updating it. I don't think it was ever made public exactly which component was the source of the trouble, it was thought to be the part that flipped a bit indicating some 'vision' junk, but nobody ever said for sure. I suspect that if he could he would, instead he has moved on by releasing his ImgBurn application.

setarip_old
26th October 2005, 00:36
I'd appreciate it if you folks wouldn't hijack this thread...

powerslave
31st October 2005, 19:12
Don't you read? Use search and you would have figured it out by now. Suffice it to say that it took 5 hrs because it tried to read every sector on the disk. When it found an error it skipped it which is what the option said it would do. Unfortunately it has to try to read the sector before it can determine whether the sector is bad or not and that's what takes forever. The PSL file allows you to skip those bad sectors right off the bat and the process is faster but you have to know what sectors are bad to make a PSL file. While Decrypter was able to detect earlier versions of this type of protection, it has not been updated to handle the latest versions.

CWR03
31st October 2005, 19:28
Don't you read? Use search and you would have figured it out by now. Suffice it to say that it took 5 hrs because it tried to read every sector on the disk.
First off, setarip_old's original question was not why it took five hours, it was what was done about the reported bad sectors in order to work around the ARccOS protection. Did you yourself not read the entire post?

Second, setarip_old has done nothing to warrant the rudeness from practically everyone posting in this thread - he has as much right to ask a question as anyone else, if not more so if you notice his nearly 700 posts in less than three months, almost all of which have been helping others.

powerslave
31st October 2005, 21:17
My apologies, the custom around here is to search for things that have already been discussed previously. It's been a few months but i believe decrypter pads the areas that had bad sectors with dummy sectors or dummy data if you will. So as it rips, when it detects a bad sector, it replaces it with a dummy sector on the ripped file. There is a wealth of info not only on this site but on google as well and some detective work would unearth the complete explanation.

setarip_old
31st October 2005, 21:29
@powerslave

Hi!

The previously existing information that you refer to ("There is a wealth of info not only on this site but on google as well and some detective work would unearth the complete explanation.") was already well known to me. Unfortunately, that information describes how DVD Decrypter deals with ARccOS copy protected DVDs that it IS[/Color] capable of processing with its default settings (The earliest, simplest versions of ARccOS).

My threadstarting question specifically sought information regarding DVD Decrypter's actions when dealing with ARccOS copy protected DVDs that it IS NOT capable of processing with its default settings - Rather, set to -0- software read error retries and "Ignore all read errors"...