DVD decrupter 3.5.4 Still enough ?

[apfraats]

I still use DVDD 3.5.4 and I never came across any problem.


I know its development is stopped.

Does anybody knowd about protected DVD's that DVDD 3.5.4 can't handle ?

I still use it and nerver had a problem uptill now.

Are there new protected DVD'd that DVD 3.5.4 can't handle ?

If so , what to do ?

Thx ,

Antoine

[Doom9]

Please use our search engine, there are plenty of posts like yours and plenty of answers so there's really no need for yet another thread on the same old subject.

[apfraats]

Yes I tried that before. The only thing i found out is that DVD-D should have problems with ACrrOS dvd;s. But i'm looking for an example DVD and want to know how to recognize a prtotected DVD that has this protection.

I will open a new thread.

[Amnon82]

Man. This is realy boaring. Use AnyDVD or DVD43 which is freeware. Use the SEARCH before posting. ... AND DON'T OPEN ANOTHER THREAD FOR THIS!!!!

[apfraats]

Yep, I used search, but some things are not clear to me despite searching and these are:

1) IF DVD-D can't decrypt an ARccOSS protected discs, how will I notice ?
2) If I use Anydvd is it as good or better as DVD43 ?
3) What are the precise settings using anyDVD or DVD43 For DVD-D

I know that you have to change I/O and and uncheck structure protection.

I always use file-mode with DVD-D, to use DVD-RB afterwards to compress.

Should I also uncheck REMOVE IFO STRUCTURE protection or not ?

And shouting will not help !!!

[CALIMA]

I still use DVDD 3.5.4 and I never came across any problem.


I know its development is stopped.

Does anybody knowd about protected DVD's that DVDD 3.5.4 can't handle ?

I still use it and nerver had a problem uptill now.

Are there new protected DVD'd that DVD 3.5.4 can't handle ?

If so , what to do ?

Thx ,

Antoine
What about compressing your data on the DVD? I almost NEVER have a problem writing an encrypted DVD to my hard drive using DVD decrypter, however to write from my hard drive to a blank DVD, I always get the error message that the file being copied is TOO LARGE for the blank DVD target. If I don't get an I/O Error with DVD Shrink, this program will do the job of shrinking the data to fit the target blank DVD. This is the problem I have with the DVD, "The Bourne Supremacy". Any suggestions on what I could do. I tried using Neuro to write the target DVD as Neuro has a shrinking (compressing) feature, but when the project finishes, the burned DVD give me an error message on my DVD player something like: "The data on this DVD can not be read". HELP!!!

[setarip_old]

IF DVD-D can't decrypt an ARccOSS protected discs, how will I notice ?

It will generate an error message indicating that it's unable to read sector(s)

If you do encounter an "ARccOS" copy protected disc that DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 initially cannot rip, you can still use it successfully by doing the following:

1) Change the setting to ignore read errors and also set read error retries to zero.
2) Rip the DVD.
3) Save the log list.
4) Export the PSL file and save it.
5) Open up the PSL file in a text editor and keep the first row starting with '0:'.
6) The row that start with '1:' - insert the range that was reported in the log file as 'Failed to read sector'. Delete the rest of the rows.
7) Save the PSL file.
8) Import the PSL file you have edited.
9) Rip the DVD.

[apfraats]

After reading about Accros copy protection, I remebered I just did rip HITCH with it.

According to ANYDVD history notices this should be an new accross system used.
But DVD-DECRYPTOR was just saying 'Found errors in protected array' and cycled tray and inderted dummy sectors. I plyed back te ripped version from HD with POWERDVD , and all looked fine.....

SO I still don't understand the problem with Accoss protection.
DVD-DECRYTOR just ripped it fine, inserting dummy sectoes in the 'protected aaray'.

?????

[setarip_old]

@apfraats

There have been different bad sectoring schemes used with "ARccOS" copy protection in different Regions and countries' DVD releases.

If you are in Region 1(Canada or the U.S.), DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 has been able to handle all "ARccOS" protected releases for that Region thusfar.

I believe someone else has posted of similar results regarding Australian "ARccOS" releases.

It seems that Region 2 (Primarily Europe) has the "ARccOS" protected releases that require the use of "PSL" files...

[apfraats]

@apfraats

There have been different bad sectoring schemes used with "ARccOS" copy protection in different Regions and countries' DVD releases.

If you are in Region 1(Canada or the U.S.), DVD Decrypter v.3.5.4 has been able to handle all "ARccOS" protected releases for that Region thusfar.

I believe someone else has posted of similar results regarding Australian "ARccOS" releases.

It seems that Region 2 (Primarily Europe) has the "ARccOS" protected releases that require the use of "PSL" files...


The DISC HITCH I was talking about was a region 2 disc. And even that particalairy disc was done fine by DVD-DECRYPTOR's handling of [protected arrays. I also saw this disc was causing trouble for anyDVD and they have updates it. Also I did 'VET HARD' region 2 with DVD-DECRYPTOR region 2 ! and the latest update of anyDVD was because of this dics !!!!
But DVD-DECRYPTOR was doing it perfectly also.....

Also I"m worried and don't trust anyDVD. Because if there are read-errors in the area that is not due to copy protection, what then ?????

DVD-Decryptor will report errors in the not copy protected area, but will anyDVD do ????

To test this I used a disc a 'damaged' with a black marker, and indeed Anydvd did NOT REPORT READING ERRORS !!!!

So this is a dangerous way of circumventing read-errors....

I need a slolution that I can trust. So it must be capable of circumventing copy-protecting but MUST REPORT READ-ERRORS when tey are in the not-protected area !

[setarip_old]

1) I did NOT say that ALL Region 2 "ARccOS" protected DVDs cannot be copied by DVD Decrypter. "Hitch" may very well have an "ARccOS" copy protection scheme that DVD Decrypter CAN automatically circumvent.

2) I also did NOT say that ALL Region 2 DVDs have "ARccOS" protection. Do you know, with certainty, that both "Hitch" and "Vet Hard" contain "ARccOS" protection?


So it must be capable of circumventing copy-protecting but MUST REPORT READ-ERRORS when tey are in the not-protected area !

Try the following:

If you are confronted with a disc that DVD Decrypter (using DEFAULT settings) is initially unable to rip, you would then use the "PSL" method to initially rip and create a "PSL" file.

Then, reset DVD Decrypter to its DEFAULT settings - and import the "PSL" file and rip again. If DVD Decrypter generates any sector errors that were not included in the PSL file, you can presume they are ACTUAL BAD SECTORS.

[Taelon]

What about compressing your data on the DVD? I almost NEVER have a problem writing an encrypted DVD to my hard drive using DVD decrypter, however to write from my hard drive to a blank DVD, I always get the error message that the file being copied is TOO LARGE for the blank DVD target. If I don't get an I/O Error with DVD Shrink, this program will do the job of shrinking the data to fit the target blank DVD. This is the problem I have with the DVD, "The Bourne Supremacy". Any suggestions on what I could do. I tried using Neuro to write the target DVD as Neuro has a shrinking (compressing) feature, but when the project finishes, the burned DVD give me an error message on my DVD player something like: "The data on this DVD can not be read". HELP!!!We know what the programs do, sorry I read this twice and I still don't understand the problem you are having? Is it the "Overlapping I/O Error in DVDShrink"? If so you either have a dirty disk, your DMA is OFF, or the protection wasn't completely removed by DVDD.

.

[blutach]

@apfraats

Try Closer R2 - DVD Decrypter has had problems with that one. DVD Fab Decrypter, seems to get through it OK.

Regards

[apfraats]

I did both VET HARD and HITCH with Decrypor and they came out fine.

These were absolutely region 2 discs !

For Anydvd the lastest two updates are especially made for these discs !

The only problem I had with HITCH, that was after getting the movie-only with DVDSCHRINK, the audi/video on a real DVD layer was not in sync.

Just pausing ore steping back a bit, did solve this problem too.

But I wanted a good backup, so I took DVDremake-pro and let it read the decrypted files. At VOB_8, where he protected arrea was, Remakepro was saying 'Recovering Cell information'. After the files were readed, I did hide (kind of delete) all blocks or cells that were in the copy protected array.
This has the advantage that you only have left VOB files with real data, and not dummy data. So it makes the structure absolutely correct (DVDremake pro is doing that for you) and it's saving on total space, because I took out the parts that were used for the protection arrea.

After this, the disc plays OK and I didn't have any problems with it.

So I still have to see the first disc that DVD-decryptor can't handle, and yes all my discs are R2 discs !!

[apfraats]

What about compressing your data on the DVD? I almost NEVER have a problem writing an encrypted DVD to my hard drive using DVD decrypter, however to write from my hard drive to a blank DVD, I always get the error message that the file being copied is TOO LARGE for the blank DVD target. If I don't get an I/O Error with DVD Shrink, this program will do the job of shrinking the data to fit the target blank DVD. This is the problem I have with the DVD, "The Bourne Supremacy". Any suggestions on what I could do. I tried using Neuro to write the target DVD as Neuro has a shrinking (compressing) feature, but when the project finishes, the burned DVD give me an error message on my DVD player something like: "The data on this DVD can not be read". HELP!!!

If you want to compress DVD's and have superiour compressions quality (DVDschrink I used a lot in the past, but I'm convinced now that it's a fast but low quality solution) , you should try DVD-REBUILDER. There is a special forum about this tool were they explain everything. It's a bit more defficult to use at first but people there will help you, even with newbie questions.

Now if you want to spend 10,- bucks for a donation you can get the DVD-REBUILDER-PRO version. Is has a complete auto-installer that instaals everything you need. Even encodes you need are installed. I use DVD-RB-PRO for a while now. It gives a lot better quality and rebuilds the entire DVD, so problems can be avoided. Id you want to use a good encoder you want to use CCE SP, which costs 1995,- !!!But you can also use the trial version that's free and can be turned into the full version with a little searching on P2P networks....

[jinjin_jp]

@apfraats(#14)
Thanks for the information about ARccOS. I also tested some software and compared before.
AnyDVD and DvdReMakePro can certainly get the result without problem.
These are not freeware, but it's be able by only freeware (which are DvdFabDecrypter and VobBlanker) without problem.
There are some difference of feature between these software.
(a)processing bad sectors(cell) when ripping
___Both change bad cells to unrefferenced material in difference way.
___(1)AnyDVD:the cells are remain in VTS overview.(but V/C-ID is changed to one which is no problem.)
___(2)DvdFabDecrypter:the cells are removed in VTS overview.
(b)processing unreffernced materials(cells)
___(1)DvdReMakePro:the cells are removed and all V/C-ID is re-numbered.
___(2)VobBlanker:it can select 2 ways by setting.
______(2-1)the cells are removed, and V/C-ID of remaining cells is not changed.
______(2-2)the cells are replaced by dummy cells, and V/C-ID is not changed.
I wrote before in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=98058).

Edit(adding about first thread)
I think DVDDecrypter can also handle ARccOS.
By (1)detect bad sectors by ripping with ignoring read errors. (but it needs very long time than usual.)
___(2)create PSL file and ripping with using it. (but it needs very long time than usual.)
___(3)process by VobBlanker or DvdReMakePro. (but it can't be automatically, so need to set problematic cells to blank cells.)