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Morlock
16th September 2005, 22:04
My old ripper just died so I'm shopping for a new one. Trouble is I've read how some drives are designed to deliberately slow down ripping. Does this apply to only drives with write capability? I'm pretty sure there's some truth to the story because all my drives with write capability rip much slower than my DVD-ROM drive which had no write capability (even the one that only writes CDs).

What's an inexpensive, fast ripping DVD drive?
Morlock
16th September 2005, 22:56
I crawled around the forum and found that this is probably a CSS thing, supposedly many/most drives limit ripping CSS drives to 2x (which is what my limit seems to be).

Should I be trying to exceed this? I'd love to have faster rips but not if I'm going to get significantly lower quality.
Revgen
16th September 2005, 23:49
If you use software like AnyDVD, the drive won't see it as a CSS DVD. Then it should rip faster.
Jack'n'xbox
17th September 2005, 02:47
What about a firmware update


http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php?sid=f2bbf10b5440bce300d07d7c7cd7751c

they have firmware thats been modified.
Morlock
17th September 2005, 18:52
If you use software like AnyDVD, the drive won't see it as a CSS DVD. Then it should rip faster.
Thanks I'll look into that.
What about a firmware update


http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php?sid...0d07d7c7cd7751c

they have firmware thats been modified.
I treat firmware updates as a last resort. They make me uncomfortable. I don't consider modified or hacked firmware a viable option.
Morlock
17th September 2005, 18:54
So, will upping my ripping speed significantly impact quality? If it will I'll just stick with 2x.
Revgen
18th September 2005, 18:57
It shouldn't impact quality at all.
theReal
19th September 2005, 01:29
It shouldn't impact quality at all. It doesn't affect quality at all - a 1:1 digital copy is a 1:1 digital copy (at least as long as no error-correction mechanisms introduce interpolated data). If you feel unsure about that, then rip a movie twice, once with 2x and once with full speed, then compare the files with "fc" (type: "fc /b file1.vob file2.vob" at the command line). It will take a while, but if it reports no differences you are 100% sure no data has been lost
Morlock
19th September 2005, 21:01
Thanks for the help.
Morlock
19th September 2005, 22:56
I'm using the AnyDVD trial but it isn't increasing my ripping speed. I'm ripping with DVD Decrypter but still hitting the 2x ceiling.

Edit: never mind. I had DVD Decrypter set to 4x which for some reason was resulting in a 2x limit; I set it to 8x and now I'm up over 4x.
theReal
20th September 2005, 18:07
I'm using the AnyDVD trial but it isn't increasing my ripping speed.Programs can't eliminate firmware features - if the firmware is locked to 2x for video DVDs then the drive won't read faster than 2x, no matter what the program requests.
Only way to solve that problem is to flash your firmware with a patched, unlocked version.

However, it seems the firmware wasn't the problem in your case?